School teacher gets education

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

Still doesn't justify an act of violence against his person by a trained professional.

Well under most circumstances I would agree with you, and maybe even this one, because I really do not know all the facts. Sure I would prefer that God do all his own “dirty work” and make it easy for all of us here on earth. But sometimes we humans are particularly well suited to do God’s will on his behalf. Why else were we created? We are here not only to pray to Him but to act in service to Him and he gave us a the “owners manual” to do so.

Sometimes God divinely inspires us and sometimes this inspiration calls us to action. For example, if a Good Samaritan sees someone in need on the side of the road and asks why, God may call him or her to action in order to ease that persons suffering. Is there a flip side to this type of deed?

Certainly “revenge is mine” said the Lord. I do not think a good Christian would assault someone else for revenge. But is possible that God can act through a person other than Jesus to get his message across? In other words, it is possible this person was willing to break the law and assault someone and be willing to suffer the earthly consequences, even jail time, believing his actions were God’s will?

No one can say if this guy acted 100% under his own motivation, or if he may have been divinely inspired to do what he did. We cannot peek inside someone’s mind like that. Or else a lot of lawyers would be out of a job!!

[cosmo kramer]

Gomer to the rescue!

[Santabot]

I agree with Brain almost entirely here, about all I could do is quote him and nod.

[rhertz]

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Originally Posted by Santabot

I agree with Brain almost entirely here, about all I could do is quote him and nod.

Santabot, two things are expressed by your avatar. (1) You are a white guy with a bad hair cut, and (2) you like to trip on LSD.

[Santabot]

Originally Posted by rhertz

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Santabot, two things are expressed by your avatar. (1) You are a white guy with a bad hair cut, and (2) you like to trip on LSD.

If you've read around, you'd note this isn't me in my avatar, I've taken it from another forum from someone else because I liked it.

My hair isn't cut like that, I am white, and you can't determine my likes and dislikes about drugs from any of my posts thus far, but I will reveal that I've ingested my fair share of LSD in my time, yes.

[Isabella]

Originally Posted by Santabot

If you've read around, you'd note this isn't me in my avatar, I've taken it from another forum from someone else because I liked it.

My hair isn't cut like that, I am white, and you can't determine my likes and dislikes about drugs from any of my posts thus far, but I will reveal that I've ingested my fair share of LSD in my time, yes.

Santabot, do you have parents? There is no way my son would be doing those things at your age. He is now 23 and does not do those things. Yes, I do know that for a fact! It is not healthy. Back in my day, the people I know who did LSD are not normal today. Some are dead. Drugs are for losers. I have never used drugs, but I have seen first hand what drugs can do to people. You appear to be fairly intelligent. Don't fry your brain.

[Santabot]

Originally Posted by Isabella

Santabot, do you have parents? There is no way my son would be doing those things at your age. He is now 23 and does not do those things. Yes, I do know that for a fact! It is not healthy. Back in my day, the people I know who did LSD are not normal today. Some are dead. Drugs are for losers. I have never used drugs, but I have seen first hand what drugs can do to people. You appear to be fairly intelligent. Don't fry your brain.

Then please don't criticize my actions, I appreciate that privacy and ability to do with my body what I wish.

I agree with your concern, and I was afraid at first also, but 3 years ago, I began my drug endeavors, and honestly, after all of the things I've done (there's not much I haven't), I could honestly, in my most sober state of mind (I'm not a drug-addled youth like you may think, even though I have had my fair fair share of experience) tell you that the ONE singular thing I would never take back in my life would be my experiences with drugs.

I can tell you no greater thing that has enhanced my person in ways I never imagined feasible before doing them myself. I appreciate your concern, but I don't need any sympathy or parenting, I've pretty much done that for myself my entire life, and it's made me a bit more rigid than I'd like, but I do think that from what I've seen from the forum, I know quite a bit more about the truth of drugs and their use than many, if not all of you. I don't aim to please or scare or show off here, I simply state that even if you had reason to believe I was a drugged-out kid, sure, think of me as one, but you'll be cutting yourself short of really even knowing who I am, and that's a large failure to do to anyone, I never did that to you guys

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by rhertz

Well under most circumstances I would agree with you, and maybe even this one, because I really do not know all the facts. Sure I would prefer that God do all his own “dirty work” and make it easy for all of us here on earth. But sometimes we humans are particularly well suited to do God’s will on his behalf. Why else were we created? We are here not only to pray to Him but to act in service to Him and he gave us a the “owners manual” to do so.

I'm pretty sure this is a fictional piece and we have all of the facts we are going to get.

So the question is, what laws are you willing to let the "divinely inspired" break. If punching an atheist is ok, what about stabbing a Satanist?

Sometimes God divinely inspires us and sometimes this inspiration calls us to action. For example, if a Good Samaritan sees someone in need on the side of the road and asks why, God may call him or her to action in order to ease that persons suffering. Is there a flip side to this type of deed?

C'mon Dude.....Comparing punching someone in the face to helping an old lady change her tire is a stretch even for you!!!

Certainly “revenge is mine” said the Lord. I do not think a good Christian would assault someone else for revenge. But is possible that God can act through a person other than Jesus to get his message across? In other words, it is possible this person was willing to break the law and assault someone and be willing to suffer the earthly consequences, even jail time, believing his actions were God’s will?

I reiterate...what laws are you willing to let the "divinely inspired" break. If punching an atheist is ok, what about stabbing a Satanist?

No one can say if this guy acted 100% under his own motivation, or if he may have been divinely inspired to do what he did. We cannot peek inside someone’s mind like that. Or else a lot of lawyers would be out of a job!!

Lawyers wouldn't be out of a job because no aspect of our law is built around divine intervention. You either broke the law or you did not and the marine in this story clearly broke the law.

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

What laws are you willing to let the "divinely inspired" break.

Assuming that is indeed a question, the answer is none, and I never implied otherwise. Some people who are inspired by God end up in jail for their belief. Nobody ever said life was fair, not even God almighty.

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

If punching an atheist is ok, what about stabbing a Satanist?

Who said punching an athiest or anyone for that matter is OK? Not me. Assault and battery is a serious crime.

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

I reiterate...what laws are you willing to let the "divinely inspired" break. If punching an atheist is ok, what about stabbing a Satanist?

Punching anyone is not OK by legal standards in which I agree with. But if God told me to punch you out, and I did it, that would be OK in the sense that I would be sued by you and go to jail, etc. Maybe it would be "worth" it and maybe it wouldn't.

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

Lawyers wouldn't be out of a job because no aspect of our law is built around divine intervention. You either broke the law or you did not and the marine in this story clearly broke the law.

I see your point, and I agree with it. lets say that God told me to do something that is illegal and I choose to do it on purpose knowing full well that there are legal consequences, then that is my sole business or "karma" if I may be so bold. Many have suffered personally and even gone to jail to bring the bible to you and me. I consider it a gift. A very dear gift paid for with solid "currency".

[cosmo kramer]

Did I mention tis the time for all good men to have a glass of wine?

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by rhertz

Assuming that is indeed a question, the answer is none, and I never implied otherwise. Some people who are inspired by God end up in jail for their belief. Nobody ever said life was fair, not even God almighty.

So if some people who are divinely inspired end up in jail, and you openly approve of the illegal activity that landed them in prison in the first place, then why shouldn't I consider you untrustworthy as well and more likely than the average person to commit a crime of your own?

Who said punching an athiest or anyone for that matter is OK? Not me. Assault and battery is a serious crime.

Everyone that approved of the actions of the marine portrayed in the story.

Punching anyone is not OK by legal standards in which I agree with. But if God told me to punch you out, and I did it, that would be OK in the sense that I would be sued by you and go to jail, etc. Maybe it would be "worth" it and maybe it wouldn't.

Well, I promise you only one of us is anxiously waiting to die.

I see your point, and I agree with it. lets say that God told me to do something that is illegal and I choose to do it on purpose knowing full well that there are legal consequences, then that is my sole business or "karma" if I may be so bold. Many have suffered personally and even gone to jail to bring the bible to you and me. I consider it a gift. A very dear gift paid for with solid "currency".

The teacher was in no way, shape, or form impeding on the right of anyone in that class to worship as they see fit.

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

So if some people who are divinely inspired end up in jail, and you openly approve of the illegal activity that landed them in prison in the first place, then why shouldn't I consider you untrustworthy as well and more likely than the average person to commit a crime of your own?

You shouldn't. Both Christians and non-Christians commit crimes everyday. That doesn't make it right or wrong. Being Christian does not mean you are without sin, much less without breaking man's laws.

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

Everyone that approved of the actions of the marine portrayed in the story.

According to man's assault and battery laws true. But according to God's laws not to tempt thy Lord, well perhaps justice was served. We do not know what was in that marine's mind, much less God's mind.

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

The teacher was in no way, shape, or form impeding on the right of anyone in that class to worship as they see fit.

He was challenging it. Testing it. no doubt. But dont' fret, with a decent lawyer he will never have to work another day in his life. how much justice do you want to see served in this case?

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by rhertz

You shouldn't. Both Christians and non-Christians commit crimes everyday. That doesn't make it right or wrong. Being Christian does not mean you are without sin, much less without breaking man's laws.

I shouldn't be more suspicious of someone who overlooks crimes of a religious nature because crimes happened everyday? Gee, should I not lock my doors since houses get broken into everyday too?

According to man's assault and battery laws true. But according to God's laws not to tempt thy Lord, well perhaps justice was served. We do not know what was in that marine's mind, much less God's mind.

You asked who said it was ok, not what BS excuse they might use for breaking the law.

He was challenging it. Testing it. no doubt.

So stating his own beliefs is testing Christians beliefs?

Well, hopefully you can figure out why we have separation of church and state then.

But dont' fret, with a decent lawyer he will never have to work another day in his life. how much justice do you want to see served in this case?

I'm of the opinion it's a fictional situation. I'm merely expressing my disgust at those who feel that striking another individual over his or her opinion is an acceptable form of behavior in a civilized society.....