On this day in April 17, 1775

[Al Swearengen]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

How many times have you been polled before the President made a decision?
How about the Governor?
How about your mayor?

is the answer very rarely?

That only shows how corrupted the system has become, it does NOT change the fact that they're our servants! Repeat to yourself as necessary.

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

That only shows how corrupted the system has become, it does NOT change the fact that they're our servants! Repeat to yourself as necessary.

LAF

Since the "system" has never put every decision to a public vote, are you implying it's been "corrupt" since it's inception or are you rattling off again?!?!?!?

[Al Swearengen]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

LAF

Since the "system" has never put every decision to a public vote, are you implying it's been "corrupt" since it's inception or are you rattling off again?!?!?!?

Didnt I JUST ask you NOT to be stupid? NO, I dont mean EACH and EVERY decision they make. I'm sayin their "best judgement" had damn well better be what the public wants...not that there aint plenty of public servants that do whatever the hell THEY want to do...thats called MALFEASANCE, and it usually costs them their jobs, and sometimes their freedom.

[joepole]

>All kids should get an A just for trying, huh?

No, nor should anyone ever consider a dictionary to be an aribter of language. Secondary sources such as dictionaries are recorders, and flawed ones at that.

Who cares what M-W thinks a word means?

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by joepole

>All kids should get an A just for trying, huh?

No, nor should anyone ever consider a dictionary to be an aribter of language. Secondary sources such as dictionaries are recorders, and flawed ones at that.

Who cares what M-W thinks a word means?

They are what's known as a creditable source.

[LateNight]

Originally Posted by joepole

>
All kids should get an A just for trying, huh?

No, nor should anyone ever consider a dictionary to be an aribter of language. Secondary sources such as dictionaries are recorders, and flawed ones at that.

Who cares what M-W thinks a word means?

Very good point. Trying to explain to someone what a "patriot" truly means.

Plenty of articles about. Plenty of quotes..

mark twain
For in a Republic, who is "the country?" Is it the Government which is for the moment in the saddle? Why, the Government is merely a servant- merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn't. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them.

In times of change, the Patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

edward abbey:
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.

Tom Paine:
Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.

E. M. Forster
If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country.

Then of course, there is what the "government" tells us , as to what patriotism should mean.

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[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

Didnt I JUST ask you NOT to be stupid? NO, I dont mean EACH and EVERY decision they make. I'm sayin their "best judgement" had damn well better be what the public wants...not that there aint plenty of public servants that do whatever the hell THEY want to do...thats called MALFEASANCE, and it usually costs them their jobs.

As I indicated earlier, "the public" doesn't play a role in the impeachment process. Our only choice will be whether or not to vote for or against said candidate when and if he is up for reelection.

[Al Swearengen]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

As I indicated earlier, "the public" doesn't play a role in the impeachment process. Our only choice will be whether or not to vote for or against said candidate when and if he is up for reelection.

Trust me, any public servant with half a brain knows which side his bread
is buttered on. Public outcry is usually sufficient to make the wheels of government turn, even if election day is in the distant future.

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

Trust me, any public servant with half a brain knows which side his bread
is buttered on. Public outcry is usually sufficient to make the wheels of government turn, even if election day is in the distant future.

Exactly, you may influence his decisions

he does not serve you.

[Al Swearengen]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

he does not serve you.

He serves US...he, or she, just needs to be reminded of that fact from time to time.

[AnimeSpirit]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

As I indicated earlier, "the public" doesn't play a role in the impeachment process. Our only choice will be whether or not to vote for or against said candidate when and if he is up for reelection.

Voters have no need to bring formal charges against elected officials (impeachment), but we can remove one from office. This is called a reform election.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recall_election

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit

Voters have no need to bring formal charges against elected officials (impeachment), but we can remove one from office. This is called a reform election.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recall_election

This movement was less than successful because in the United States recall elections are currently prohibited in the federal system. The majority of states allow recall elections in local jurisdictions, but only 18 states permit recall elections to remove statewide officers (as of 2006}

Currently prohibited in the federal system.....where a change to the 2nd Amendment would have to occur.

[BrainSmashR]

oops....that's another topic