Toddler falls from a moving SUV

[sportgirl]

WOW! I just found this forum and began to read this thread, and I am in complete shock!

I mean being stubborn about being right over something as foolish as endangering your child?? Come on now.

Sure taking your child to the pool poses a risk of injury or death, BUT I would hope that a good parent would ensure that if the child was of an age that their abilities to swim were not developed, that they would make floaties or a life vest and absolute MUST. I would hope that the parent would watch their child while in the pool CONTINUOUSLY!!!! I would also hope they have the knowledge of CPR and simple life saving procedures, or that they have made sure there is someone there that does know this. Otherwise this parent would be endagering their child without taking all precautions necessary to try their BEST from keeping their child from getting hurt.

In the case of driving without your child in the car seat, no matter what distance and/or speed, this is lacking on the parental part for taking ALL precautions necessary to ensure your child's safety.

I'm not saying that you should never take your kids anywhere, I'm saying as a good parent you are to provide every bit of precautionary measure
to ensure that you keep your child safe. That is good parenting.

Here are some other statistics for you just in case you still don't see the light:

(www.lawcore.com) For those in the age group of 1 to 30 years, the leading cause of death is due to being involved in a car accident. In more than half of all car accident fatalities, the deceased were found not to be wearing their seat belts at the time of the crash. Even with seat belts being mandatory, a vast majority of people choose to disregard this safety precaution and end up losing their lives because of it.

(www.cdc.gov) Child safety seats reduce the risk of death in passenger cars by 71% for infants, and by 54% for toddlers ages 1 to 4 years (NHTSA 2006b).

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration recommends booster seats for children until they are at least 8 years of age or 4'9" tall (NHTSA 2006d).

For children 4 to 7 years, booster seats reduce injury risk by 59% compared to safety belts alone (Durbin et al. 2003).

I really hope that you take into consideration your child's life. No matter what you say in this forum, I bet the next time you take your child to the pool, you think long and hard before you choose not to put your child in the carseat. Hopefully you choose to do such a simple task & help protect your child.

[sportgirl]

Originally Posted by sportgirl

Sure taking your child to the pool poses a risk of injury or death, BUT I would hope that a good parent would ensure that if the child was of an age that their abilities to swim were not developed, that they would make floaties or a life vest and absolute MUST. I would hope that the parent would watch their child while in the pool CONTINUOUSLY!!!! I would also hope they have the knowledge of CPR and simple life saving procedures, or that they have made sure there is someone there that does know this. Otherwise this parent would be endagering their child without taking all precautions necessary to try their BEST from keeping their child from getting hurt.

In the case of driving without your child in the car seat, no matter what distance and/or speed, this is lacking on the parental part for taking ALL precautions necessary to ensure your child's safety.

I'm not saying that you should never take your kids anywhere, I'm saying as a good parent you are to provide every bit of precautionary measure
to ensure that you keep your child safe. That is good parenting.
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I'm not sure what part of this you didn't read, but since you seem to be intensely focused on the part about you taking your daughter to the pool, I posted this in order to sort of help you re-evaluate what we were trying to say.

It seems to me that I might have to say it ANOTHER way:

Choosing to go 5 blocks without your child in a car seat is the same as throwing a 2 year old into a pool without a life jacket.
THE CHILD NEEDS THE EXTRA PROTECTION THAT A CAR SEAT OR LIFE JACKET GIVES!

How lazy of a person can you be?? I mean really. Have you not heard of a washing machine?? You do know the carseat covers come out?? What about towels???

Oh, but wait, no one else in this forum knows what they are talking about--I forgot...only you do.

For the rest of us that do intend to buckle in children, even if for 5 blocks in a residential community I think we can all agree that this is a lost cause, and the best thing we can do for this child is pray that nothing happens and that ignorant parents grow up.

[Texasbelle]

Originally Posted by sportgirl

I'm not sure what part of this you didn't read, but since you seem to be intensely focused on the part about you taking your daughter to the pool, I posted this in order to sort of help you re-evaluate what we were trying to say.

It seems to me that I might have to say it ANOTHER way:

Choosing to go 5 blocks without your child in a car seat is the same as throwing a 2 year old into a pool without a life jacket.
THE CHILD NEEDS THE EXTRA PROTECTION THAT A CAR SEAT OR LIFE JACKET GIVES!

How lazy of a person can you be?? I mean really. Have you not heard of a washing machine?? You do know the carseat covers come out?? What about towels???

Oh, but wait, no one else in this forum knows what they are talking about--I forgot...only you do.

For the rest of us that do intend to buckle in children, even if for 5 blocks in a residential community I think we can all agree that this is a lost cause, and the best thing we can do for this child is pray that nothing happens and that ignorant parents grow up.

Well said Sportgirl!!!

Joe, do you think you can find anybody besides your wife to agree with you?

[BrainSmashR]

Sort of makes me long for the good ole days when everyone thought the worst a person could do was be an atheist who supported the 1st Amendment.

[Texasbelle]

Are you asking for another debate Brain????????? jk

[joepole]

>playing the odds with her life

That is what every single parent does every single minute of every single day.

You can't seem to decide, am I an unfit parent for breaking the law or for endangering her life? What about when she starts school, will i be an unfit parent for letting her ride the school bus? That's legal, but it means she won't be wearing a seat belt, so I'm confused as to its parent-worthiness.

>I'm sure that will explain the disfigurment and multiple scars she'll have to endure as a direct result of your carlessness.

Hahahahaha. She'll be the modern elephant man! People will come from miles around to see the hulking monster of a woman whose parents dared to let her ride out of her car seat!

>The Law has the been the arbiter of what is right and wrong since the term "law" was invented.

No, it hasn't, it has been the arbiter of what is legal. I can host a cockfight at my house and feed my kid McDonald's three meals a day and invite all of my friends over to smoke in her room while she's sleeping without breaking the law, but it hardly makes me right, does it? Likewise, I can ignore laws that make absolutely no difference in her life and it doesn't make me wrong.

[B1FF]

WONT SUMBODY THNK Of DA CHILDRENS!!!! DA BIFSTA DOES!!!

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by joepole

People will come from miles around to see the hulking monster of a woman whose parents dared to let her ride out of her car seat!

By this standard, what do you all think of my parents of letting us kids ride in the bed of a pickup truck back in the 60's? Not even inside of the vehicle? Back before Brain was born? Heck both my mom and dad started driving around age 12 and neither even had a drivers license! (where was no such tax/fee for driving yet). Back when men were men and women were women.. I have wondered if we should all become Amish because it would save 10X the lives lost in Iraq for socalled nothing.