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Old 12-31-2007, 03:34 PM   #1
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the idea that he is not a politician now that is laughable.
the man has consistently voted on principal.. using the rule of law and the Constitution to determine every vote he has made. lobbyists etc do not even bother to visit him, they no nothing will change his mind. When Republican leadership is requesting/demanding that they all vote a certain way on something.. they single out Ron Paul as to not be included. They no he will not be swayed by politics or pressure. His record speaks for itself.

Come debates.. the days leading up to them, your usual candidate locks himself away, pouring over their responses to see what answers poll better with the public.. Ron Paul goes through no such preparations.. his answers are based on the rule of law. And he will give his answers regardless of what he thinks the listeners want to hear.

Doesn't sound like any politician I've ever heard of.

how you folks continue to tie in Iraq to the war on terror is one huge mystery to me.

To me it appears that there is some phantom force that prevents Americans from thinking beyond the sound bite about real-world considerations and consequences. The pattern for political dialog is Hear, Feel, and React. Unfortunately, the words Think or Question do not appear in the normal dialog patterns of most Americans. We've become a nation of people trained to only see what we're told to see and to be absolutely comfortable ignoring the obvious.
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:17 PM   #2
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I live with my head in the sand Look around the world and see the facts. This problem is not going away and running home will just feed the beast. Yea I would love to love everybody and save tax dollars but it is so much more than that. If nobody will come talk to him about a vote then he will not get along with the Congress and he would be a lame duck. I think Howard Dean is a doctor too.
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"I never said Al that I would not vote for RP in the main election"

Ya cant vote for him in the main election if he doesnt get the party nomination, and that's where we come in. He needs your support. Wake up and realize that it's in your best interest to give it to him. Defend America, defend your freedom. Lets flush the status quo down the crapper where it belongs. Let's take our country back from the bureaucrats and oligarchs. The time is NOW. Ya snooze, ya lose.
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If you're mad at Ron Paul there's a good chance you're either a blithering idiot, a socialist democrat or a bogus republican.
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This problem is not going away and running home will just feed the beast. Yea I would love to love everybody and save tax dollars but it is so much more than that.
I never will understand this connection of the war on terror and freakin' Iraq.. didn't have nothing to do with it.. I've said it before, I'll say it one more freakin' time. When we went into Afghanistan.. to take out the Taliban.. here were folks with immediate connection.. I was all for that.. even ol' RON PAUL was for that. But we got no business being in the nation building process.. it never freakin' works.

Nobody here has problems with air strikes on training camps.. execution of terrorist leaders, etc....

Invading a country like Iraq.. which HAD NO CONNECTION.. all that does is piss off folks over there.. makes more folks willing to join Al Qaida and the like. To think all that goes on in Iraq.. makes us safer, is absolutely absurd.

And I never will understand this media.. that stand up and cheerleads for this war in Iraq and **** like the Patriot Act.. like it's all freakin' good for us.

the "war on terror" is likely to go on as long as the 'war on drugs'. This war in Iraq, helps us ZERO with the 'war on terror'. The more we expect the Government to protect us.. the more control they will have on us. The Bigger it will get. Passing up an opportunity to do something about that. Republicans USED to be about smaller government.. has not been the case in a long freakin' time.

Congressman Paul is no stranger to military support. Former president Ronald Reagan said, “Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country!”

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I never will understand this connection of the war on terror and freakin' Iraq.. didn't have nothing to do with it.. I've said it before, I'll say it one more freakin' time. When we went into Afghanistan.. to take out the Taliban.. here were folks with immediate connection.. I was all for that.. even ol' RON PAUL was for that. But we got no business being in the nation building process.. it never freakin' works.

Nobody here has problems with air strikes on training camps.. execution of terrorist leaders, etc....

Invading a country like Iraq.. which HAD NO CONNECTION.. all that does is piss off folks over there.. makes more folks willing to join Al Qaida and the like. To think all that goes on in Iraq.. makes us safer, is absolutely absurd.

And I never will understand this media.. that stand up and cheerleads for this war in Iraq and **** like the Patriot Act.. like it's all freakin' good for us.

the "war on terror" is likely to go on as long as the 'war on drugs'. This war in Iraq, helps us ZERO with the 'war on terror'. The more we expect the Government to protect us.. the more control they will have on us. The Bigger it will get. Passing up an opportunity to do something about that. Republicans USED to be about smaller government.. has not been the case in a long freakin' time.

Congressman Paul is no stranger to military support. Former president Ronald Reagan said, “Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country!”
Happy New Year LN The beauty of this whole thing is we live in America and have a choice I like the debate and you and Al have been free to speak your mind. I too have said what I think as rhertz has too. I see the cup half full. America could in my humble opinion consolidate our troops in a few areas and save that precious American tax dollar but that would be missing the big picture. We need bases all over the world. Russia supports the Arabs and anybody else that does not like America. They ARE NOT going away. We (USA) can not afford to retreat. Not now not ever. Maybe I am old school but this country was not built by running from those that hate us. We can not buy friends. It has been that way from get to go. There is a good reason the socialist/communist support liberal and moderate candidates If one candidate just one would stand up and say " I am a Christian and believe if and when this country as a country turns our face "back" to God then and only then will see a great healing of our country" I think this man would win the election ! Hey before you fire this is my opinion and I reserve all rights on it It is written that this will happen one day. Just how bad will it have to get before something of that magnitude takes place God only knows. 911 sure did not get ever ones attention.
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Old 01-01-2008, 03:52 PM   #7
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I just cant believe you people who still reject the IRAQ connection to terrorism. It's completely ignorant to the facts- which we've already been over on this forum. Let me explain this to you in simple terms: RonPaul Is NOT electable. He is a bafoon. His "few" good ideas do NOT make-up for his MANY weaknesses. I think he has "little man syndrome"(maybe some of his supporters too) Get over it- Its NOT gonna happen. "NEXT"
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I just cant believe you people who still reject the IRAQ connection to terrorism. It's completely ignorant to the facts- which we've already been over on this forum. Let me explain this to you in simple terms: RonPaul Is NOT electable. He is a bafoon. His "few" good ideas do NOT make-up for his MANY weaknesses. I think he has "little man syndrome"(maybe some of his supporters too) Get over it- Its NOT gonna happen. "NEXT"
Ya sound awfully sure of that, Vix. Could it be that you've somehow overlooked the massive grassroots movement to elect the man? Could it possibly have escaped your attention that his supporters have set record after fund-raising record? I think you're in denial. Maybe if ya removed those blinders you'd see what's goin on around ya. I can promise ya this much...if Paul is elected, you'll never hear the end of it. Same goes for Joe, as I believe he also said Paul is "un-electable".
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Grassroots campaign are worthless, just ask Howard Dean or Wesley Clark.

Also, has anyone noticed that Ron Paul and Ross Perot:

1. Have the same initials

2. Are both from Texas

3. Talk funny (although, see #3)

4. Have never been seen together

5. Are much more likely to hurt the Republicans than the Democrats, while having absolutely no chance of actually winning?

A group of Ron Paul folks were picketing E 70th @ Youree this weekend for some reason. Campaign tip: You need better looking women.
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