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Well there's really no way for me to respond to this garbage without being overly condescending, so I'll just paraphrase instead of responding to specific comments. Yes I have read the entire Bible on multiple occasions. I'm not some idiot who develops opinions without any knowledge to support those opinions. Now I've got a question for you, have YOU studied any other system of beliefs besides Christianity? Or are you a typical Christian devoid of even a general understanding of alternate religions? You see, your implication is that you think I'm ignorant because you don't think I've read the Bible while my implication is that you are ignorant because the Bible is all you've read..... Remember, knowledge is power and ignorance is a VERY curable condition. |
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Such a high opinion of yourself
Well I tried to help but you will have no part so you do as you wish and I will do the same. I do not think you know how to post with out being rude. You go find your god in a "book" that you have your faith in and I will continue to find my hope and truth in the Bible. I bet your a real pleasure to be around on a daily basis. It seems you live to insult and attack people no matter who they are or what they believe to be the truth. It is like you know more than anybody I think that would be called a know it all. Isaac has tried to find even the smallest amount of common ground with the Brain but I have been denied so be it. I know by all the guest on this thread that many members are watching so if any of you out there agree with anything BSr has posted please step up and say so. If not just keep voting and that will be enough.
I would like to thank all you that emailed me in support of my post it was not a wasted email. I think if know one replies to his post in the future he will troll along to another site and find new prey to attack. It was real, it was fun but it was not real fun Isaac I just noticed your are -62 now you have another record to be proud of Last edited by Isaac-Saxxon; 03-12-2007 at 03:56 PM. Reason: Added note for the Kenite |
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Per "Pascal's Wager", it should be crystal clear to you by now, Brain, that the only intelligent, rational, logical, sane choice is to believe. If you follow this line of reasoning to it's inevitable conclusion, you'll come to see that there really IS NO CHOICE! Take that leap o faith, and if He exists, you will be rewarded, if He does not exist, you've lost nothing. If you dont take that leap o faith and it turns out there IS a God, you're pretty much up **** creek, get it? See how that works? Pretty simple isnt it? Even a child can understand it. But maybe I've given you too much credit in assuming you've comprehended the concept? I'll tell ya what Brain, you dont talk like any confirmed catholic I ever knew, and Ive known a few. Quote:
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Hey Mr. Al Swearengen
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Just some thoughts. While everyone here tries to persuade Brain to change his views..
Anyone who knows me well, will tell you I'm not a "religious" person. But I've been intrigued by much of the discussion here. Especially the views from Isaac and his dislike for "Organized" religion. Probably views I can relate to more than anything else. Makes me thing maybe there's hope for one such as me, cause you are not very likely to find me in a church. Me personally, I feel that as it has been THROUGH OUT TIME.. man looks to a higher being. Be it a sun god, or what have you. Man has always looked for answers, hoping against hope there be some kind of afterlife, be it in heaven or some other paradise. Hoping against hope that when it's all over, there's something to be had other than the BIG DIRT NAP. And now I listen to Brains arguments.. he's all about PHYSICAL proof. He's got to be able to see, feel, scientifically proven, everything before he will accept anything. And I can appreciate this. I tend to be very analytical as well. This notion of an All Powerful being just seems to incredible to be true.. I've grown up in a time, where we've gone to the moon, sent satellites to the edge of our solar system. And where scientist make new discoveries all the time. So I understand why Brain likes to throw out facts and numbers to try and prove his side of the argument. As I get older, I've witnessed things.. terrible things.. and personally the passing of my father and TWO of my older brothers. So it would be easy for me to say how could Any god allow such things to happen. Who would make my mother have to witness such things. But I'll tell you something else.. some years ago, I witnessed first hand the miracle that was the birth of my two children. I know first hand I've had angles on my shoulder more than a few times, where either I or friends of mine should all be dead, except for no other reason, we had angles on our side. I take comfort in knowing my brothers and father are together once again, and looking down on us all. I can believe in the Big-Bang theory, but I still have to ask myself what came before that, and who or what is responsible. I can believe in the Big-Bang theory, but the odds of this planet forming as it has, in just the right spot, and for life to form on it.. a million things had to play out just right. at times I envy those who are full of faith, although mine is shaky sometimes at best.. as man has done throughout time.. I hope and pray, I look to the sky for answers, take in the miracle of life around me. And try to live a good life. It may be ol' Brain just hasn't witnessed enough. But I will not pass any kind of judgement. |
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Al certainly has a way with words don’t he? I think “Al” is a mixture of the man behind the avatar, along with some old time values and old time ways that have a certain nostalgic appeal in modern society. At first I wasn’t so sure, but now I think he picked his avatar well to suit his beliefs. Better than I did with the Pug.
I don’t have any stats to back me up, but I heard that statistically speaking, the “Wild West” (where people bore arms regularly) was safer than today’s relatively wimpy society where guns are bad. In my humble opinion, if someone doesn’t fear God, then they better fear Smith and Wesson, or else I might have a big problem on my hands. |
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2. The Big Bang is a theory.....is it so hard to believe that the universe simply could have always existed? Hasn't their god always existed? 3. I understand what you are saying about the existence of life on this planet. What about the meteorite discovered in 1996 with signs of microbial life from mars? While it hasn't be confirmed to BE evidence of life, they certainly can't disprove it either.....isn't that one of the religious justifications....that we can't prove god doesn't exist? Simply put, just because WE are the only form of intelligent life that WE know about.....that's doesn't make Earth the sole location for life in the universe. For instance, there IS underwater volcanic activity on Io, one of the moons of Jupiter. The exciting phenomenon here is that there are life forms on Earth that have developed around underwater volcanic vents that have never been exposed to sunlight or even warmth from the sun. The problem, how do we get to Io (approximately 372,000,000 miles), burrow through hundreds of feet of ice, then get a submarine down low enough to examine their volcanic vents for forms of life.....all without any mishaps since we can't simply pull into a dock or orbiting space station for repairs. Understand why our knowledge of the solar system much less the entire universe is so limited? |
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You are just a very difficult person and love to argue. You have your opinions and everyone else has theirs. I would still think that most would disagree that this is not a miracle. I do feel for you whether you would like me to or not.
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I don't judge a person's worth by their words, but rather by their actions......and you and I simply don't know each other in real life, therefore it's practically impossible for you to do something I would find offensive....unless of course you think your opinion matters when I'm going through something highly emotional, life altering, and devastating, like losing a girlfriend AND being the prime suspect in her murder. That's why I have no use for Isabelle....she never called me guilty, but she certainly was less that sympathetic. In fact, I'd go as far as to say she will respond to this post with something to the extent of it was MY fault.....even knowing shes on my ignore list. She's one of those people who cares more about what others think than about doing the right thing. It was fun to ridicule Tracy and be a part of the "in crowd"...forget that his life was falling apart and getting worse by the minute. That won her a spot on my ignore list....and as I stated, she won't let this slide because what you think about her is more important than what she does. Now, as far as child birth being a "miracle".....maybe our definitions of what constitutes a miracle differ here. In my opinion, a "miracle" is something which has no scientific explanation. Conception, the resulting pregnancy and child birth all have scientific explanation and can be replicated on any corner of the globe....Immaculate conception would be a miracle. |
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Brain, Brain, Brain you condesending ? Who would think that ?
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However, the feelings you experience when that moment happens to you is nothing short of miraculous. The miracle in childbirth, though not the process itself, is how this simple process can bring an immeasurable degree of happiness and joy into the lives of two lovers. How does the extraction of a large collection of accumulated chromosomes and proteins bring such a powerful wave of unparalleled joy to the very heart of your soul when you first peer into the new child's eyes? Simple! Because it's a baby, new life, and not merely a collection of chromosomes and proteins. Like any other gift in our world, it is not gift itself, but the feeling that it gives you inside. This is the miracle of childbirth. |
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You’re joking right? Does your attorney know you are chatting about it on the Internet? This just doesn’t seem real, especially considering your past radical religious posts. But if you are serious, my apologies, I’m not asking you to prove it. A man is innocent until proven guilty, and maybe you just like giving the authorities lots to read! |
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