New National Anthem?

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

Depends on how hard you try to force your beliefs on me.

Worshiping god is one thing, religious terrorism exercised by radical Islamic Muslims and the Marine in Isaac's story is something else.

Being proud of someone who shares your faith is one thing, being proud of their violent/illegal actions is something else....terrorists, the Marine in Isaac's story, and even good ole Roy Moore.

I think I understand your point. We as Christians, we are supposed to "spread the good news". I see this as an offering and nothing more. What comes around should go around. Now if someone's ears do not want to hear it, I do not believe it is right to force any religious beliefs on anyone. If a horse is led to water, only the horse can decide to drink or not. Forcing a horse to drink if it doesn't want to would at best be futile or at worst be cruel. Notice how God has lead us to water by offering us his word (the bible) but he does not force us to have faith while here on earth. It is up to each of us individually to make our own choices. I certainly have never been accused of forcing my beliefs on anyone that I recall, with the possible exception being my children. As far as offering my beliefs to others, well sure I offer a lot of opinions; some religious, some political, some technical. Isn't that what discussion sites are for? Exchange of ideas?

However, if I or my religion is under attack, I will respond to defend myself or my God, Lord and Savior. I do not believe that anyone can prove or disprove any religion to the satisfaction of others on the opposite side of the fence.
This is largely what the war on terror is all about, isn't it? For example, I do not recall that our agenda is to force Christianity on Saudi Arabia or Iran, however their agenda is to force Islam on Israel for instance. (or else wipe it off the map) I'm sure if this was the kind of "forced religious belief" you were bashing on this board, you would have more members in agreement with you. And I don't recall any Christians or Jews or even Atheists straping bombs on their own children to force anyone to change their minds.

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by rhertz

I think I understand your point. We as Christians, we are supposed to "spread the good news". I see this as an offering and nothing more. What comes around should go around. Now if someone's ears do not want to hear it, I do not believe it is right to force any religious beliefs on anyone. If a horse is led to water, only the horse can decide to drink or not. Forcing a horse to drink if it doesn't want to would at best be futile or at worst be cruel. Notice how God has lead us to water by offering us his word (the bible) but he does not force us to have faith while here on earth. It is up to each of us individually to make our own choices. I certainly have never been accused of forcing my beliefs on anyone that I recall, with the possible exception being my children. As far as offering my beliefs to others, well sure I offer a lot of opinions; some religious, some political, some technical. Isn't that what discussion sites are for? Exchange of ideas?

However, if I or my religion is under attack, I will respond to defend myself or my God, Lord and Savior. I do not believe that anyone can prove or disprove any religion to the satisfaction of others on the opposite side of the fence.
This is largely what the war on terror is all about, isn't it? For example, I do not recall that our agenda is to force Christianity on Saudi Arabia or Iran, however their agenda is to force Islam on Israel for instance. (or else wipe it off the map) I'm sure if this was the kind of "forced religious belief" you were bashing on this board, you would have more members in agreement with you. And I don't recall any Christians or Jews or even Atheists straping bombs on their own children to force anyone to change their minds.

I really don't know how you determined all of this by me expressing disgust at the preferential treatment some of you would give a criminal if his crime was committed in the name of your god....so I'm kind of baffled as to how I should respond.

[AnimeSpirit]

Alright people, we're back on the religious chatter again. We have a religion forum for that. If you all want to keep this thread going, let's talk national anthems please.

[Santabot]

Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit

Alright people, we're back on the religious chatter again. We have a religion forum for that. If you all want to keep this thread going, let's talk national anthems please.

Isn't that political? And doesn't it clearly state not to post political agendas in this forum? If it's not political, possibly governmental, or musical? Overall, just saying: the topic is valid if you allow people to bring what they wish into the replies.

[AnimeSpirit]

We're not talking politics here, per say. The topic of this thread is not so broad. It is national anthems and why you think we should change it or not.