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Old 04-17-2007, 12:15 AM   #1
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My wife, a church school teacher, just mentioned to me that had she been there with a gun, she would have shot the b@stard with no problem if it would have helped to prevent such a heavy and senseless loss of life. I guess killing is a relative thing. She's agrees. It's ok to kill the psycho killer when he is on victim 5 of 32 and you happen to be there with a gun.
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:27 AM   #2
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My wife, a church school teacher, just mentioned to me that had she been there with a gun, she would have shot the b@stard with no problem if it would have helped to prevent such a heavy and senseless loss of life. I guess killing is a relative thing. She's agrees. It's ok to kill the psycho killer when he is on victim 5 of 32 and you happen to be there with a gun.

Couldn't agree more.

What about thou shall not kill?

See, this is what I'm talking about folks. A direct contradiction of the Commandments handed down by your Lord. Not only would she (and presumably you too) willingly murder another man, you've even deemed it "ok".

Does anyone even want to TRY and explain that rational or is this just another subject you'll choose to ignore?
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:07 AM   #3
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Not even a challenge

The Bible never advocates giving up your right to self defense or protecting your family. God is the ultimate in justice. A careful line must be drawn between premeditated murder or blind revenge and the act of having the tools to protect yourself in the line of gunfire.

Sorry, but there doesn't even seem to be an issue here!
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Sheba, that was perfectly well said. And no more needs to be said. The Bible is perfectly clear on the subject to all those who CHOOSE to understand.

I guess none of us ever thought part of the school supply list for college would need to include a weapon but it appears we may have to start adding that to the list. You are all absolutely correct if just one person with a concealed weapons permit had actually had theirs in the building this could have been stopped in short order. There are so many questions here though to be answered in this situation. How did he get the doors locked and someone not notice? How did he get all the way across campus dressed like he was and the police there investigating the first shooting not notice?

The good people are not the ones doing the shootings of innocent people. Take away the guns and the criminals will still find ways to have them.
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The Bible never advocates giving up your right to self defense or protecting your family. God is the ultimate in justice. A careful line must be drawn between premeditated murder or blind revenge and the act of having the tools to protect yourself in the line of gunfire.

Sorry, but there doesn't even seem to be an issue here!
Well I have to say carrying a firearm, even for defensive purposes, shows a certain degree of premeditation. I mean you aren't just going to pull your gun and try to intimidate someone, right?

Not to mention the training and practice it would take to not only over come your initial response to immediately seek shelter, but to effectively engage the "enemy" while under fire. That's ballzy and rarely seen outside the police and military.....notice how many people this **** killed before killing himself.
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:52 AM   #6
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The Bible never advocates giving up your right to self defense or protecting your family. God is the ultimate in justice. A careful line must be drawn between premeditated murder or blind revenge and the act of having the tools to protect yourself in the line of gunfire.

Sorry, but there doesn't even seem to be an issue here!
Great post Sheba. There is no issue here for Christians just for those who CHOOSE to go against the truth of the WORD In a short time and this too will pass and "turned to ashes from within" will be the fate of those who CHOOSE to do Satan's bidding.
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On GMA, they are showing pictures of victims and telling their stories. It is truly heartbreaking. I know I don't have to ask, but let us all keep these families in our prayers and the students who survived. They are going to need uplifting in the coming weeks.
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On GMA, they are showing pictures of victims and telling their stories. It is truly heartbreaking. I know I don't have to ask, but let us all keep these families in our prayers and the students who survived. They are going to need uplifting in the coming weeks.
If not for the Grace of God there go I ! Yes prayer for the families and friends.
I think we can see how one person with their anger and evil spirits can make life miserable for many others. It is truly heartbreaking and it is time for the people of America to wake up and pray to our Father as a nation.
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