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Old 03-27-2007, 08:31 AM   #1
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Please don't doubt that I am a Republican through and through. Hell would have to freeze over before I ever voted for a Democrat. I only think I can't judge their motives too harshly. It's really not my place. Personally I think Isaac is right that he really is not going to go far with this. He didn't the last time. Either Hillary or Obama Bin Laden will get the Democratic nomination.

We shudder at the thought of any Democrat being elected to the White House. We KNOW our taxes are going to get higher which is a very scary thought.
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Please don't doubt that I am a Republican through and through. Hell would have to freeze over before I ever voted for a Democrat. I only think I can't judge their motives too harshly. It's really not my place. Personally I think Isaac is right that he really is not going to go far with this. He didn't the last time. Either Hillary or Obama Bin Laden will get the Democratic nomination.

We shudder at the thought of any Democrat being elected to the White House. We KNOW our taxes are going to get higher which is a very scary thought.
I think the bleeding hearts will see how greedy and mean the Dems are and by the time 08 comes around there will be a major out cry from Christian America and it will come at the cost of the Dems. John Edwards cares more about his career than anything and he has always been that way let us say he came up a top lawyer and in order to be that you must not have much heart when it comes to doing what is morally correct. Why would he change now. No he will not get the nomination so bow out and gain some respect from his family and the country.
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Please don't doubt that I am a Republican through and through. Hell would have to freeze over before I ever voted for a Democrat. I only think I can't judge their motives too harshly. It's really not my place. Personally I think Isaac is right that he really is not going to go far with this. He didn't the last time. Either Hillary or Obama Bin Laden will get the Democratic nomination.

We shudder at the thought of any Democrat being elected to the White House. We KNOW our taxes are going to get higher which is a very scary thought.
Oh but T-Belle, it most definitly IS your place to judge their motives. "Government by consent of the governed" means YOU and I and all the other little people are the masters. Our PUBLIC SERVANTS need to be reminded of this sacred truth from time to time. If someone wants to "serve" in our highest executive leadership position, they must be prepared to endure the closest scrutiny, answer the most prying questions, satisfy every curiosity.

As for the party system, BOTH of the main parties are self-serving and corrupt. They are focused only on enriching themselves at the taxpayer's expense. Voting along party lines only enables and perpetuates the corruption. Until this sad situation changes (and that day might come sooner than later), there can never really BE honest and effective leadership. So please, dont ever blindly follow a "party". You would be doing the country a disservice. Cast your vote for the best candidate for the job, whoever you think that to be.
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Oh but T-Belle, it most definitly IS your place to judge their motives. "Government by consent of the governed" means YOU and I and all the other little people are the masters. Our PUBLIC SERVANTS need to be reminded of this sacred truth from time to time.
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Old 03-28-2007, 12:58 AM   #5
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You know that I love you Al right? But I am going to disagree a little here. I can't judge his motives 100%. Do I think he might be using a situation to further his motives? Yes. But what are his motives? You and I don't know except he wants to be President. I think we are going to have to hear from him a little more to really wade through his rhetoric and decide what we actually think those motives are.

Do you listen to Sean Hannity? I listened to him last week and heard him discussing the idea of a new party of conservatives, people willing to stop all this crap of "party lines" and people like us willing to have a conscience. His thoughts are just like yours which are just like mine. It is definitely what I would like to see happen.
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You know that I love you Al right? But I am going to disagree a little here. I can't judge his motives 100%. Do I think he might be using a situation to further his motives? Yes. But what are his motives? You and I don't know except he wants to be President. I think we are going to have to hear from him a little more to really wade through his rhetoric and decide what we actually think those motives are.

Do you listen to Sean Hannity? I listened to him last week and heard him discussing the idea of a new party of conservatives, people willing to stop all this crap of "party lines" and people like us willing to have a conscience. His thoughts are just like yours which are just like mine. It is definitely what I would like to see happen.
You're very sweet, T-Belle. Disgreement is the "spice of life" here on the boards. I must confess that my suspicions are automatically aroused when someone, anyone, emerges who WANTS this job. I've always believed that we would be best served by someone who clearly eschews this position of vast power, but accepts it out of a sense of patriotism, obligation and responsibility, as opposed to someone who actively seeks and campaigns for it. To that end, I'd like to see a system whereby nominations for candidacy are submitted not by political parties but by a non-party affiliated or apolitical citizenry whose only agenda is the welfare and stability of the country. Such candidates could refuse nomination ONLY if they could show physical, mental, and emotional unsuitability. The nominations would be tallied, with the candidates with the most nominations advancing for a runoff, the winner then being tasked with serving as president for a specified term, remaining eligible for re-election as long as there is overwhelming popular demand.
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Oh but T-Belle, it most definitly IS your place to judge their motives. "Government by consent of the governed" means YOU and I and all the other little people are the masters. Our PUBLIC SERVANTS need to be reminded of this sacred truth from time to time. If someone wants to "serve" in our highest executive leadership position, they must be prepared to endure the closest scrutiny, answer the most prying questions, satisfy every curiosity.

As for the party system, BOTH of the main parties are self-serving and corrupt. They are focused only on enriching themselves at the taxpayer's expense. Voting along party lines only enables and perpetuates the corruption. Until this sad situation changes (and that day might come sooner than later), there can never really BE honest and effective leadership. So please, dont ever blindly follow a "party". You would be doing the country a disservice. Cast your vote for the best candidate for the job, whoever you think that to be.
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I'm not even a registered voter myself nor a supporter of any political party. I wonder how parties got started. I remember looking down the list of presidents back in high school and seeing the various parties listed by their names. There use to be the Whig party and Lincoln was elected under a party called the "Democratic Republicans" (not very original, are they?).

In short, what is the actual purpose of the political parties?
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In short, what is the actual purpose of the political parties?

To sit down and have a drink right late night ? Some like wine and some like beer and then there are others that like whiskey We have Rep, Dems and swing voters.
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Anime, this is your SB Board Mother...(aka Texasbelle) why are you not a registered voter? It is one of your most precious rights as an American. People have given their lives defending your right to exercise your vote and make a difference in this country. Now son, you need to take care of that business right away. This country needs for each and every one of us to stand up, exercise all of our rights as in voting, and try to make a difference to bring this country back to a good place. Do you really want Hillary as your next president?

As for what purpose the parties serve? At this point, I think the purpose is solely to argue with each other. I am sure Al has something to say to answer your question better than I. He is the old wise one.
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Anime, this is your SB Board Mother...(aka Texasbelle) why are you not a registered voter? It is one of your most precious rights as an American. People have given their lives defending your right to exercise your vote and make a difference in this country. Now son, you need to take care of that business right away. This country needs for each and every one of us to stand up, exercise all of our rights as in voting, and try to make a difference to bring this country back to a good place. Do you really want Hillary as your next president?

As for what purpose the parties serve? At this point, I think the purpose is solely to argue with each other. I am sure Al has something to say to answer your question better than I. He is the old wise one.
Well, the reason why I usually don't vote is because I currently don't have the time to study the issues each candidate is focusing on. My vote would be nothing more than an uneducated guess at who I think would be best. Personally, I could care less if Hilary becomes the next president. For all I know, she might be a good one. Personally, I prefer leaving the job of choosing our politicians to the people who know who they are and what they stand for.

Maybe someday when my time isn't divided between work, school, and simply living, I may take some interest in politics.
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Well, the reason why I usually don't vote is because I currently don't have the time to study the issues each candidate is focusing on. My vote would be nothing more than an uneducated guess at who I think would be best. Personally, I could care less if Hilary becomes the next president. For all I know, she might be a good one. Personally, I prefer leaving the job of choosing our politicians to the people who know who they are and what they stand for.

Maybe someday when my time isn't divided between work, school, and simply living, I may take some interest in politics.
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Well, the reason why I usually don't vote is because I currently don't have the time to study the issues each candidate is focusing on. My vote would be nothing more than an uneducated guess at who I think would be best. Personally, I could care less if Hilary becomes the next president. For all I know, she might be a good one. Personally, I prefer leaving the job of choosing our politicians to the people who know who they are and what they stand for.

Maybe someday when my time isn't divided between work, school, and simply living, I may take some interest in politics.
If the new Democrat budget passes and we get the biggest tax increase in the history of the United States ( LINK ) Remember you didn't have time to study the issues
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