Any smokers on the forum

[piemaker720]

We talk about smoking and how bad it is that people do it for theiself and their kids. How many of us is guilty of giving these to ourself or our children? Should this also be considered abuse.? Obesity is a very big problem these days and how do our children become Obese?

http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/0..._all_costs.htm

If you need a little motivation to stay away from these most unhealthy foods, consider that four of the 10 leading causes of death in the United States are related to diet (diabetes, heart disease, cancer and stroke). And if you're looking to improve yours, cutting back on these six foods is a great place to start.

Soda.

An average can of soda has 10 teaspoons of sugar, 150 calories, 30 to 55 mg of caffeine, artificial food colors and sulphites. Diet sodas have the even-more-unhealthy artificial sweeteners. A major part of the problem is that sodas have become a staple in many people's diets. A study in the journal Pediatrics found that 56 percent to 85 percent of children consume at least one soft drink a day, and 20 percent of adolescent males drink four or more sodas a day.

In fact, CSPI has recently petitioned the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) calling for cigarette-style warnings on soft drinks to warn people of their potential health risks (weight gain, diabetes, tooth decay and more).

Potato chips and French fries.

These popular snack foods contain acrylamide, a known carcinogen and neurotoxin that is formed when foods are baked or fried at high temperatures. "I estimate that acrylamide causes several thousand cancers per year in Americans," said Clark University research professor Dale Hattis.

When CSPI conducted tests on some popular brands of French fries and chips, they found that the acrylamide in a large order of fast food fries was at least 300 times the amount allowed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in a glass of water.

These foods also contain trans fats, the artery-clogging fat that's been linked to raising bad cholesterol (and lowering the good kind), and increasing the risk of heart disease, diabetes, stroke and cancer.

Doughnuts.

Tasty, yes. But break a doughnut down and you'll find nothing more than refined sugar and flour, artificial flavors and partially hydrogenated oil that's loaded with trans fats. They have no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

"When it comes to health, the only thing good about them is the hole," said Carla Wolper, nutritionist at the New York Obesity Research Center.

Coffee Cake and Other Baked Goods.

This category actually includes all varieties of baked goods, including packaged cake and biscuit mixes. What makes these foods so bad is that they almost always contain high amounts of trans fats and a host of other unsavory additives including corn syrup, preservatives and artificial flavors and colors. In fact, commercial baked goods typically contain more trans fats than any other food because not only are they often made with hydrogenated oils, they're fried in them too.

Luncheon Meats/Hot Dogs.

Processed meats like these (and others including sausages, bacon, pepperoni and other processed meats) contain a carcinogenic precursor ingredient known as sodium nitrite (sodium nitrate is closely related).

"Sodium nitrite is a dangerous, cancer-causing ingredient that has no place in the human food supply

Canned Soup.

Here we're talking about the traditional, canned soups you find in your grocery store. This may come as a surprise, but most canned (and packaged) soups have high levels of trans fats, sodium and artificial preservatives like MSG. Just one cup of canned soup can have almost 1,000 milligrams of salt (and most people eat more than one cup), which is tons considering dietary guidelines recommend consuming no more than 2,400 milligrams for the entire day.

WHITE FLOUR
White flour forms a sticky substance in the intestines and cardiovascular vessels, causes constipation and deregulates the digestive system. For a proper burning process you have to stay away as much as you can from white flour.
Products that contain white flour are: white bread, pizza, buns, pancakes, crepes e.g.

[Al Swearengen]

I agree with LateNight, whoever owns the business should be the one who decides whether to allow smokin. The only time I've really felt inconvenienced by the smokin ban was on the odd occassion I was at a bar. Seems to me that smokin and drinkin go hand in hand. Both are legal vices, both are potentially deadly, and both have been consumed in waterin holes since time began! I resent the hell out of the government stickin it's big nose where it dont belong.

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

I agree with LateNight, whoever owns the business should be the one who decides whether to allow smokin. The only time I've really felt inconvenienced by the smokin ban was on the odd occassion I was at a bar. Seems to me that smokin and drinkin go hand in hand. Both are legal vices, both are potentially deadly, and both have been consumed in waterin holes since time began! I resent the hell out of the government stickin it's big nose where it dont belong.

You can still smoke in dedicated bars Al (i.e. bars without restaurants).

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by piemaker720

We talk about smoking and how bad it is that people do it for theiself and their kids. How many of us is guilty of giving these to ourself or our children? Should this also be considered abuse.? Obesity is a very big problem these days and how do our children become Obese?

Now you're getting the hang of it pie!

http://www.ronjones.org/Weblinks/childobesity.html

http://www.norcalblogs.com/post_scri...sity_chil.html

[piemaker720]

Chinese restaurant food unhealthy, study says
Menus loaded with sodium, saturated fat and calories

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17718517/

The typical Chinese restaurant menu is a sea of nutritional no-nos, a consumer group has found.

A plate of General Tso’s chicken, for example, is loaded with about 40 percent more sodium and more than half the calories an average adult needs for an entire day.

The battered, fried chicken dish with vegetables has 1,300 calories, 3,200 milligrams of sodium and 11 grams of saturated fat.
That’s before the rice (200 calories a cup). And after the egg rolls (200 calories and 400 milligrams of sodium).
In some ways, CSPI's Liebman said, Italian and Mexican restaurants are worse for your health, because their food is higher in saturated fat, which can increase the risk of heart disease.

While Chinese restaurant food is bad for your waistline and blood pressure — sodium contributes to hypertension — it does offer vegetable-rich dishes and the kind of fat that’s not bad for the heart.

Here is more, boy we are some abusing folks.

[joepole]

>You can still smoke in dedicated bars Al (i.e. bars without restaurants)

I thought that was the old Shreveport law, but that the new state law banned it even in bars unless there was video poker.

[LateNight]

Originally Posted by joepole

>You can still smoke in dedicated bars Al (i.e. bars without restaurants)

I thought that was the old Shreveport law, but that the new state law banned it even in bars unless there was video poker.

That sounds so stupid.. it's probably true.. so what's the dang difference between a bar, and a bar with video poker, that they would allow smoking ??

TGIF !

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by joepole

>You can still smoke in dedicated bars Al (i.e. bars without restaurants)

I thought that was the old Shreveport law, but that the new state law banned it even in bars unless there was video poker.

The "Louisiana Smokefree Air Act," sponsored by Sen. Rob Marionneaux, D-Livonia, prohibits smoking in most business around Louisiana, leaving people to do as they'd like in their homes and cars (unless they're using their homes as day care facilities).

However, there are a few other major exceptions where smoking still is allowed: bars, casinos, horse racing tracks, off-track betting facilities, bingo halls, hotel rooms, tobacco stores, Mardi Gras ball facilities and assisted living and nursing home facilities where people have requested to be in smoking rooms. Also, customers can smoke on outdoor patios at restaurants, and prisoners can smoke in Louisiana's jails until 2009.

source: http://www.katc.com/Global/story.asp?S=5873851%20

[joepole]

Yep, if you read the statute, it clearly says just "a bar" is exempt.

And it is illegal in LA to smoke with a kid under 13 in the car, regardless of the windows being up or down.

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by joepole

it is illegal in LA to smoke with a kid under 13 in the car, regardless of the windows being up or down.

Didn't know this either. I learn something new every day.

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by joepole

And it is illegal in LA to smoke with a kid under 13 in the car, regardless of the windows being up or down.

I'm old friends of mine moved to Virginia in the 80's and they told stories of being busted for smoking cigarettes with children in the car. I thought they were joking way back then. But when something reaches all the way to Shreveport LA, then it is part of Americana..... Sure it is bad, but who are children's guardians? The government or the parents? Why not just license parents? LOL, I've heard that as a joke for decades....