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Old 10-31-2007, 09:53 AM   #1
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:12 AM   #2
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Who cares? Nobody follows the flag code, anyway. How many do you see out in the rain? Or up at night with no spotlight?
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:19 AM   #3
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Who cares? Nobody follows the flag code, anyway. How many do you see out in the rain? Or up at night with no spotlight?
Joe I could see you not caring about this but there are many old fashion people that do like ME ! Take a look at the map and you will see just how many do care.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:38 AM   #4
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What does that map have to do with the flag code? A truck with a tattered flag on it is much more likely to have a Bush sticker on it than a Kerry sticker.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:56 AM   #5
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What does that map have to do with the flag code? A truck with a tattered flag on it is much more likely to have a Bush sticker on it than a Kerry sticker.
Neither the map or Kerry have anything to do with how people vote. You may want to go back and read the post It was not about the flag code that you posted about but about a presidential contender that does not think he needs to acknowledge the flag. His choice. Americas choice on how they will vote.
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I thought the problem was he didn't do the proper ritual, not that he didn't "acknowledge the flag."

>Neither the map or Kerry have anything to do with how people vote.

Is that map not of the electoral votes in the 2004 election?
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I thought the problem was he didn't do the proper ritual, not that he didn't "acknowledge the flag."

>Neither the map or Kerry have anything to do with how people vote.

Is that map not of the electoral votes in the 2004 election?
Yes it is pole. You may not can see it but there are 4 to 1 red states being conservative Christian and yes I know about the electoral college.
Obama needs to carry his butt back to the sand box. Would you vote for him if he gets the nomination ?
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Who cares? Nobody follows the flag code, anyway. How many do you see out in the rain? Or up at night with no spotlight?
I care and so do many others! It appears to me to be some sort of act of defiance when every other candidate is pledging his allegiance! This will most likely cost him some supporters and for that I am glad.
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I would never vote for Obama (unless maybe the only other choice was Hilary).

Defiance is usually a good thing. Our current President is the master of it.

>That twisted map you posted does not look like a Presidential map that I have ever seen.

That's because it show votes by people, not land mass. Montana on your map is about the same size as California, yet California has about 40 times as many people. It's shown over three times the size of LA even though we have over 4 times as many people. What possible significance does the land area underneath voters matter? On my map each state is given a physical size proportional to its population, giving a more accurate representation of how the country voted that year.

I voted for Bush, but it really annoys me when people act as if a slim majority is somehow an overwhelming mandate from the citizenry. He barely squeaked by. Still, he did better than he did in 2000, at least in 2004 he won the popular vote.

You still didn't tell me which part of the map shows the number of "conservative Christians." It's certainly not the red parts.
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I would never vote for Obama (unless maybe the only other choice was Hilary).

Defiance is usually a good thing. Our current President is the master of it.

>That twisted map you posted does not look like a Presidential map that I have ever seen.

That's because it show votes by people, not land mass. Montana on your map is about the same size as California, yet California has about 40 times as many people. It's shown over three times the size of LA even though we have over 4 times as many people. What possible significance does the land area underneath voters matter? On my map each state is given a physical size proportional to its population, giving a more accurate representation of how the country voted that year.

I voted for Bush, but it really annoys me when people act as if a slim majority is somehow an overwhelming mandate from the citizenry. He barely squeaked by. Still, he did better than he did in 2000, at least in 2004 he won the popular vote.

You still didn't tell me which part of the map shows the number of "conservative Christians." It's certainly not the red parts.
"Your map" looks like a liberal are exhibit. You might want to look at the agenda of the left and then the right and you will see why the GOP is under attack for being Christian. So you would vote for Obama and you think Al Gore would have made a better President your credibility is going down hill pole. Your funky maps and anti Christian way of thinking leaves you in the minority. Do you have any flicks of Hillary
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>you would vote for Obama and you think Al Gore would have made a better President

Can you not read?
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>you would vote for Obama and you think Al Gore would have made a better President

Can you not read?
I can read can you ???? You said you would vote for Obama and you did not like Bush Do you place your hand over your heart when our National Anthem is played and face the flag Hey Pyle where you born in America ?
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