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Old 09-01-2007, 01:02 PM   #1
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I hate to say it, but I don't doubt the story of the nun smacking your friend with a Bible. Something to remember is that all humans sin, and a religion cannot be judged by the sins of a member.

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Thank you for your willingness to listen and not condemn.

This is the last I will post in this thread. There are those in this thread who simply mock, condemn, and attack. Then are those who are asking honest questions simply for the sake of knowledge, not necessarily for the sake of conversion.

The sad part is a few people attack me and my religion, and say they only follow what is written in the Bible. I gave biblical references and the Catholic interpretation, and my points are discounted with "waiving incense and holy water". There is no research, no willingness to learn, no willingness to take a deeper look. I am not trying to convert, I am trying to educate. I want people to know the how, what, and why of the Catholic Church.

Catholicism is the last socially acceptable prejudice in America. There are so many misconceptions, and many non-Catholics believe that if one Catholic scorns them, the whole Catholic Church must be bad. The fact is, people of every race, color, religion, ethnicity have the ability to scorn you.

If you want to truly learn more about Catholicism, St. John Berchmans Cathedral has several seminars, classes, etc. on Catholicism each year.
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:43 PM   #2
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Matty,

I don't think anyone has mocked or condemned you. I'm sorry that you feel that way. I think many here in my interpretation of their posts have only sought to state their opinions on their religions and their opinions of the Catholic church. You should not take it so personally. You have every right of course to stand by your convictions. We each still have the right to believe as we choose and to worship as we choose. I certainly learned a few things from your posts and thank you for sharing.

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Old 09-01-2007, 02:28 PM   #3
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Good post Tbelle. If the shoe fits .................. Hey Matt no hard feelings just happen to be the topic of this thread. Protestants have been battling against the shackles of Catholicism for a very long time. What do you think of the Pope bowing to Islam ?
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Anime

I hate to say it, but I don't doubt the story of the nun smacking your friend with a Bible. Something to remember is that all humans sin, and a religion cannot be judged by the sins of a member.

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Thank you for your willingness to listen and not condemn.

This is the last I will post in this thread. There are those in this thread who simply mock, condemn, and attack. Then are those who are asking honest questions simply for the sake of knowledge, not necessarily for the sake of conversion.

The sad part is a few people attack me and my religion, and say they only follow what is written in the Bible. I gave biblical references and the Catholic interpretation, and my points are discounted with "waiving incense and holy water". There is no research, no willingness to learn, no willingness to take a deeper look. I am not trying to convert, I am trying to educate. I want people to know the how, what, and why of the Catholic Church.

Catholicism is the last socially acceptable prejudice in America. There are so many misconceptions, and many non-Catholics believe that if one Catholic scorns them, the whole Catholic Church must be bad. The fact is, people of every race, color, religion, ethnicity have the ability to scorn you.

If you want to truly learn more about Catholicism, St. John Berchmans Cathedral has several seminars, classes, etc. on Catholicism each year.
You're welcome! I hope you continue to post on other threads. Sometimes we do hit some controversial topics which we all don't agree on. I think the other members here are just very passionate in their beliefs and sometimes come on strong!
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:46 PM   #5
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You're welcome! I hope you continue to post on other threads. Sometimes we do hit some controversial topics which we all don't agree on. I think the other members here are just very passionate in their beliefs and sometimes come on strong!
Hey you talking about me ????
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QUOTE=Isaac-Saxxon;20616]Hey you talking about me ???? [/quote]

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There is nothing wrong with a little "passion" every now and then!
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There is nothing wrong with a little "passion" every now and then!
Especially on THIS subject!
And, Matty, Don't assume to know MY level of research or willingness to understand Catholicism! I could have easily brought up things that would have really upset you, But I did not-I thought our discussion was quite civil. No-one here was attaking you, I was being NICE. But, if you say things people don't agree with- expect to be called on it. I would expect the same from you! This is a public forum

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Old 09-02-2007, 01:59 PM   #9
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I thought the post were civil too. I think of churches and organized religion as a set of controls placed on men by other men in order to control them. We all live under some kind of control in our life but then there are the religionists and emotionalism that are a major part of the "Matrix" with government, education and economy being other major factors. Are you plugged in to the system and told what to believe ? Step back take a deep breath and read for yourself. I love this line from the Matrix. Matty this could a wake up call so take the blinders off and hang on for the ride
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How does that old saying go? "The two things you don't talk about in public are religion and politics!" LOL, those two seem to be the most passionate topics on this board. I've seen a highly technical discussion board blow up over these subjects during a crisis such as 9/11. Normally everyone gets along because of their shared interest or job. But once the topic drifts to religion and politics, things blow up quick.

It just seems that people naturally segregate themselves from people who believe differently than they do, and hang out with people who believe like they do. Most sites are for one or the other but not both. Few sites seem to fulfill the needs of Republicans AND Democrats or Christians AND Muslims for example. But some do like google and yahoo where there are groups of all types.
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This is the last I will post in this thread. There are those in this thread who simply mock, condemn, and attack. Then are those who are asking honest questions simply for the sake of knowledge, not necessarily for the sake of conversion.

The sad part is a few people attack me and my religion, and say they only follow what is written in the Bible. I gave biblical references and the Catholic interpretation, and my points are discounted with "waiving incense and holy water". There is no research, no willingness to learn, no willingness to take a deeper look. I am not trying to convert, I am trying to educate. I want people to know the how, what, and why of the Catholic Church.

Catholicism is the last socially acceptable prejudice in America. There are so many misconceptions, and many non-Catholics believe that if one Catholic scorns them, the whole Catholic Church must be bad. The fact is, people of every race, color, religion, ethnicity have the ability to scorn you.
If you think Catholism gets the heat, try being a Pagan in the Bible Belt. Everyone thinks we're devil worshippers and refuse to admit otherwise. There are a lot of hate mongers out there.

Anywho, I'm sure no one is trying to attack your religion, Matty. No one has ever tried to attack my religion (except for BSr). I tend to discuss my religion only with those who legitimately and respectfully prompt me for it. Those who come at me with an attitude or insults will either get ignored or get my own attitude in return. I don't play others' games when discussing religion. I keep an open mind so that I can give others their fair share of space and I expect the same treatment in return.
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If you think Catholism gets the heat, try being a Pagan in the Bible Belt. Everyone thinks we're devil worshippers and refuse to admit otherwise. There are a lot of hate mongers out there.

Anywho, I'm sure no one is trying to attack your religion, Matty. No one has ever tried to attack my religion (except for BSr). I tend to discuss my religion only with those who legitimately and respectfully prompt me for it. Those who come at me with an attitude or insults will either get ignored or get my own attitude in return. I don't play others' games when discussing religion. I keep an open mind so that I can give others their fair share of space and I expect the same treatment in return.
Anime, so far by you admitting the Pagan thing it has severly limited my ability to get your a date. Actually, I've been unable. Would you consider giving God a try?
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Anime, so far by you admitting the Pagan thing it has severly limited my ability to get your a date. Actually, I've been unable. Would you consider giving God a try?
Already did, more than once, and it is simply not my path. I won't pretend to be faithful to a God that isn't my own. I know God would not want me at church anyway if I was only there to get a date. And no woman who takes religion so seriously that she can't overlook my being a Pagan would respect me if I must pretend to be a Christian to keep her.

Sorry, but I won't convert just because I am single. It would be unfair to me, that potential date, and unfair to God.

There are open-minded Christians out there who can overlook their partner's religion while keeping their own. Those relationships can work. I could care less what my partner's religion is and I know that I am not the only one who feels that way.
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