Remains of Sept. 11 Victim Identified, More Bones Discovered at Ground Zero

[rhertz]

These last 3 posts are nothing but personal attacks which actually makes Joepole's point, and none of the three of you even see it. You make his point. Don't you people get it? Attack the message! (and I hope you win the debate!) Not the messenger! Attacking the messenger is a total cop out!

Don't hate Clinton because he is white, rude, or because his name is Bill. Attack Clinton for what what he did and what he believes in! Don't hate Bush because he is goofy, insensitive, or because he is Texan. Attack Bush because of what he doe and his beliefs.

Same thing should go for joepole and everyone else. Shifting from debate to personal attacks (even if the person deserves it) misses the point of the debate every time. In political terms, vote for the issue, not th person. At least this is how I feel. Because I think the issues are important, whereas people come and go...

[piemaker720]

Originally Posted by rhertz

These last 3 posts are nothing but personal attacks which actually makes Joepole's point, and none of the three of you even see it. You make his point. Don't you people get it? Attack the message! (and I hope you win the debate!) Not the messenger! Attacking the messenger is a total cop out!

Don't hate Clinton because he is white, rude, or because his name is Bill. Attack Clinton for what what he did and what he believes in! Don't hate Bush because he is goofy, insensitive, or because he is Texan. Attack Bush because of what he doe and his beliefs.

Same thing should go for joepole and everyone else. Shifting from debate to personal attacks (even if the person deserves it) misses the point of the debate every time. In political terms, vote for the issue, not th person. At least this is how I feel. Because I think the issues are important, whereas people come and go...

For one you forgot to duck Also what difference is it when we tell him how thoughtless, unsensitive. and a total jerk he is and you call me prejudiced uhmmm! I have to ask can Joe ever have one nice thing to say.

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by piemaker720

For one you forgot to duck Also what difference is it when we tell him how thoughtless, unsensitive. and a total jerk he is and you call me prejudiced uhmmm! I have to ask can Joe ever have one nice thing to say.

LOL, yes I forgot to duck. the difference is is that calling someone things based on feeling is cruel. When I said you are prejudiced, I said so after honest debate and exchange of facts. I did not say it to be mean or to get back at you. I like you piemaker, in spite of your politics. In contrast to how I feel, do you like joepole? See what I mean?

[rhertz]

I also want to point out that that joepole believes that when someone can't win a debate then they often resort to personal attacks to avoid the point. Therefore it is important to stay on topic and not engage in personal attacks (if you really want to win against joepole) Otherwise waste your time and attack him and ignore the point and loose the debate every time. (at least in his mind)

Also joepole may think I am FOS which is fine as long as he proves me wrong.

[piemaker720]

Originally Posted by rhertz

I also want to point out that that joepole believes that when someone can't win a debate then they often resort to personal attacks to avoid the point. Therefore it is important to stay on topic and not engage in personal attacks (if you really want to win against joepole) Otherwise waste your time and attack him and ignore the point and loose the debate every time. (at least in his mind)

Also joepole may think I am FOS which is fine as long as he proves me wrong.

<How does finding tiny pieces of a lost loved one bring closure?>

< I wouldn't care if, especially six years after the fact, somebody found a scrap of meat that used to be somebody I cared about. At that point it's just trash>

You gonna say that when Joe makes comments like this it is not uncaring, thoughtless. Some people would like closure in the event a loved one died so his views makes him right on every thing and he has the right to say what he wants no matter how it sounds and we can't. Uhmmm! Try telling him to say something nice sometimes then we'll change our mind. The difference here is we say exactly what we think but he is sneaky. He say the same things we do at times but in a sneaky way.

[piemaker720]

Originally Posted by rhertz

LOL, yes I forgot to duck. the difference is is that calling someone things based on feeling is cruel. When I said you are prejudiced, I said so after honest debate and exchange of facts. I did not say it to be mean or to get back at you. I like you piemaker, in spite of your politics. In contrast to how I feel, do you like joepole? See what I mean?

I don't hate Joe but like I said can he ever have anything nice to say. Why take someone's misery and be unfeeling.

[AnimeSpirit]

I'm sure I am not alone when I say that it's hard to respect a man who doesn't respect the dead.

[piemaker720]

Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit

I'm sure I am not alone when I say that it's hard to respect a man who doesn't respect the dead.

So true!

[piemaker720]

Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit

I'm sure I am not alone when I say that it's hard to respect a man who doesn't respect the dead.

I really think he respects anything.