Minimum Wages Goes Up Today

piemaker720 · 07-25-2007, 10:29 AM

Isabella, I understand what you are saying but there is one thing that differs here. You are not a business that makes money, you hire someone to clean your house, you don't have to pay minimum wage. You can set your own amount. I'm sure the wage increase is for businesses.

Isabella · 07-25-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by piemaker720

Isabella, I understand what you are saying but there is one thing that differs here. You are not a business that makes money, you hire someone to clean your house, you don't have to pay minimum wage. You can set your own amount. I'm sure the wage increase is for businesses.

No it is for everyone. My family does have a business. I was trying to get you to see a very simple example. This does not apply just to large businesses.

Isabella · 07-25-2007, 10:41 AM

Piemaker, please don't take offense. I don't mean to be picking on you. You are not looking at the whole picture, though. It would be wonderful if everyone could make higher wages.

AnimeSpirit · 07-25-2007, 10:48 AM

I can agree that if a company can't afford to pay the higher wage, than they will likely increase the cost of their goods. However, if the company pays higher than minimum wage to begin with, they could expect a more generous productivity from their employees, thus higher income for the overall company. When such minimum wage raises like this come along, the company would not be effected in the least.

It's really a competition between worker and boss. Both are trying to make more money from the other. If the boss demonstrates that he is willing to toss a bone once in a while, than the worker will likely work harder. After that, it is up to the boss to decide if the worker's performance meets the reward.

piemaker720 · 07-25-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Isabella

Piemaker, please don't take offense. I don't mean to be picking on you. You are not looking at the whole picture, though. It would be wonderful if everyone could make higher wages.

Don't worry I'm not taking offense and I don't think you are picking on me. But I also think you are not seeing the whole picture. I agree the government should not tell employers what to pay, I also agree it should be up to the employer to run his business. I understand all of that. I understand that business cost could go up but if a employer was already paying above minimum then he should not have to go up on his goods.

piemaker720 · 07-25-2007, 11:20 AM

You can not blame the wage increase for the cost of living increase. The cost of living increase is because of the government and your big oil companies and companies like sweepco that has no competition for their product. Do you think sweepco would have as many customers for power if there was another company with cheaper rates. That is another case of your supply and demand. They supply power, there is a demand for it but there is no competition so they charge whatever they want to a certain point. It's pay what we charge or we'll cut you off. Great for supply and demand. Another thing that affects the cost of living, people like that CEO of Enron, how many people did he put the shaft too? No the wage increase was not responsible for that.

guitarman · 07-25-2007, 11:24 AM

I will have to weigh in on this one. What it comes down to is we will have to do more with less. In the end the people living on the bottom level of income will find themselves with out a job. The sad part is the people with out money will vote for the people that are doing this to them.

piemaker720 · 07-25-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by guitarman

I will have to weigh in on this one. What it comes down to is we will have to do more with less. In the end the people living on the bottom level of income will find themselves with out a job. The sad part is the people with out money will vote for the people that are doing this to them.

So the answer is to keep the little guy down no matter what.

guitarman · 07-25-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by piemaker720

So the answer is to keep the little guy down no matter what.

the answer is government does not have the right to dictate to a business owner how much he or she has to pay some one for services rendered !! This attitude is why we have so many Mexicans coming over the border to do work that Americans are to good to do. There is no excuse for being lazy.

rhertz · 07-25-2007, 12:46 PM

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So the answer is to keep the little guy down no matter what.

Nobody keeps the little guy down but the little guy himself. There are so many forms of student grants, scholarships, loans, and government programs for this and that. But nobody is going to put a gun to the little guys head and make him/her take advantage of it. Well not yet anyway.

Isabella · 07-25-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by guitarman

I will have to weigh in on this one. What it comes down to is we will have to do more with less. In the end the people living on the bottom level of income will find themselves with out a job. The sad part is the people with out money will vote for the people that are doing this to them.

TRUE!

Isabella · 07-25-2007, 12:26 PM

Piemaker, if an employer refuses to give raises then don't work for this company. Truth of the matter there will always be those at the bottom of the totem pole who will never be able to better themselves. Some causes are lack of education, lack of experience, lack of intelligence, and laziness.

07-25-2007, 10:29 AM	#1
piemaker720 SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,584 Rep Power: 271	Isabella, I understand what you are saying but there is one thing that differs here. You are not a business that makes money, you hire someone to clean your house, you don't have to pay minimum wage. You can set your own amount. I'm sure the wage increase is for businesses. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.-- Bill Cosby

07-25-2007, 10:41 AM	#3
Isabella Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 487 Rep Power: 259	Piemaker, please don't take offense. I don't mean to be picking on you. You are not looking at the whole picture, though. It would be wonderful if everyone could make higher wages. __________________ Where there is a will there is a way!

07-25-2007, 10:48 AM	#4
AnimeSpirit SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nowhere Age: 43 Posts: 1,659 Rep Power: 284	I can agree that if a company can't afford to pay the higher wage, than they will likely increase the cost of their goods. However, if the company pays higher than minimum wage to begin with, they could expect a more generous productivity from their employees, thus higher income for the overall company. When such minimum wage raises like this come along, the company would not be effected in the least. It's really a competition between worker and boss. Both are trying to make more money from the other. If the boss demonstrates that he is willing to toss a bone once in a while, than the worker will likely work harder. After that, it is up to the boss to decide if the worker's performance meets the reward. __________________ Confuscious says~

07-25-2007, 11:20 AM	#6
piemaker720 SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,584 Rep Power: 271	You can not blame the wage increase for the cost of living increase. The cost of living increase is because of the government and your big oil companies and companies like sweepco that has no competition for their product. Do you think sweepco would have as many customers for power if there was another company with cheaper rates. That is another case of your supply and demand. They supply power, there is a demand for it but there is no competition so they charge whatever they want to a certain point. It's pay what we charge or we'll cut you off. Great for supply and demand. Another thing that affects the cost of living, people like that CEO of Enron, how many people did he put the shaft too? No the wage increase was not responsible for that. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.-- Bill Cosby

07-25-2007, 12:26 PM	#12
Isabella Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 487 Rep Power: 259	Piemaker, if an employer refuses to give raises then don't work for this company. Truth of the matter there will always be those at the bottom of the totem pole who will never be able to better themselves. Some causes are lack of education, lack of experience, lack of intelligence, and laziness. __________________ Where there is a will there is a way!

07-25-2007, 11:24 AM	#7
guitarman Advanced Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Shreveport Age: 56 Posts: 140 Rep Power: 236	I will have to weigh in on this one. What it comes down to is we will have to do more with less. In the end the people living on the bottom level of income will find themselves with out a job. The sad part is the people with out money will vote for the people that are doing this to them.

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