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Old 07-19-2007, 08:20 AM   #1
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Thanks for the clarification on this Isaac! Clearly Al is a little touchy on this-I haven't attacked Ron Paul. Also, the strangeness cited earlier is clearly an opinion, not an accusation, and I don't need to give examples-make up your own mind.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:11 AM   #2
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An ad hominem attack would be if we discredited Ron Paul by talking about you.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:21 AM   #3
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I would be interested to hear, what some of you all don't like about Ron Paul ? To me, just sounded like some of his ideas were very refreshing. But honestly I don't know much about him.

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Old 07-19-2007, 12:25 PM   #4
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Ron Paul ????

Against the war in Iraq

Voted against the Patriot Act of 2001 & 2005

Strongly supported by Liberal Democrats after 9/11 due to his viwes on the Iraq war (Austin Chronicle - Liberal weekly newspaper) has a favorable view of Paul by praising him for his strong, principaled opposition to the Patriot Act and the Iraq war.

He is one of only two congressmen who voted against the Rothman-Kirk Resolution which calls on UN to charge Iranian President Mahmond Ahmadinejad with violating the genocide convention and UN charter.

Wants to re-open the 9/11 investigation.

Advocates a "Moral Statement" rather than intervention in humanitarian missions such as Darfur or the Rwandan Genocide.

Endorses Defederalization of the health care system.

Was the only dissenting vote against giving Pope John Paul II, Rosa Parks and Mother Tersa the Congressional Gold Medal.

Critized giving Tony Blair a Gold Medal of Honor - Texas Monthly Awarded him the "Bum Steer" award for voting against a congressional honor for cartoonist Charles Schulz.

Lone member out of 415 voting to oppose a House measure to create a National Archives exhibit on Slavery and Reconstruction as an unauthorized use of taxpayer money.

Opposed the Federal Marriage Amendment in 2004 - proposed amendment to the US Constitution to define marriage in the United States as a union of one man and one woman.

This man is all over the map with his political views and voting record - why would you vote for him as the next President of the United States??????
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Austin Chronicle - Liberal weekly newspaper) has a favorable view of Paul by praising him for his strong, principaled opposition to the Patriot Act and the Iraq war.
This alone would make me question him. This is why in my other post I said that I did not agree with with everything he said. We will know who the front runners are by Jan 08 then I will look even closer at who is running.
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hmmm, I'm almost conservative enough to like this guy Ron Paul!
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You can lead a horse to water, as they say. I just feel like, if he doesnt get elected, then everyone who votes against him deserves whatever the hell they get. Ya deserve big government, the abolishment of the Second Amendment, the income tax and the IRS in general, weak porous borders, the non-producing service economy, unfair/unfree foreign trade, meddling in other nation's affairs at enormous financial expense and loss of life, Mexico's poor livin here, the North American Union and everything thats wrong with America that Paul wants to fix, so you just go right on ahead and make that bed, then you sleep in it and enjoy the bed-wettin and the snoorin and nocturnal fartin cuz thats damn well what ya wanted! Trouble is, the rest of us have to sleep in that bed with ya.
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Wanting to fix something and being able to are two completely different things. Hilary Clinton wanted to fix healthcare.
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