They never give up!

[joepole]

You (or the article by way of you) left out the above quoted text I copied from the bill itself. A pretty important part, i might add.

>Also, you either failed to read or comprehend the language of the bill..."It shall be unlawful for any person...to possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition."

That is just flat out wrong. Did you actually read the bill or did you just trust that "American Rifleman" had all the facts straight? The portion of the bill that is referring to is the part that amends USC 18.922(d) which reads:

"It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person—"

...and then it goes on to list 9 conditions under which it is illegal to sell a person a gun. This new bill adds a 10th:

"(10) has been the subject of a determination by the Attorney General under section 922A, 922B, 923(d)(1)(H), or 923(e) of this title.'."

[Al Swearengen]

Originally Posted by joepole

You (or the article by way of you) left out the above quoted text I copied from the bill itself. A pretty important part, i might add.

>Also, you either failed to read or comprehend the language of the bill..."It shall be unlawful for any person...to possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition."

That is just flat out wrong. Did you actually read the bill or did you just trust that "American Rifleman" had all the facts straight? The portion of the bill that is referring to is the part that amends USC 18.922(d) which reads:

"It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person—"

...and then it goes on to list 9 conditions under which it is illegal to sell a person a gun. This new bill adds a 10th:

"(10) has been the subject of a determination by the Attorney General under section 922A, 922B, 923(d)(1)(H), or 923(e) of this title.'."

You're forgettin somethin, aintcha? A lil somethin Mr. Harlan B. Carter said, about "Judge a law by the worst reading, and in the hands of the worst enemies of the Second Amendment." Joe, you're a stickler for detail, but ya blew past that bit of minutia and never looked back, didntcha?

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

You're forgettin somethin, aintcha? A lil somethin Mr. Harlan B. Carter said, about "Judge a law by the worst reading, and in the hands of the worst enemies of the Second Amendment." Joe, you're a stickler for detail, but ya blew past that bit of minutia and never looked back, didntcha?

And do YOU really think using the worst possible case scenario is the best way to judge this law? That's like locking your daughter in the basement because she might get raped and murdered in the outside world one day. Justifying your actions with the worst possible case scenario.

I'm a firm believer in The Patriot Act, and have fully supported it's use in every instance that I'm aware of....

As for LN comments, DUDE.....don't you think it's pretty difficult for a normal, hard working, tax paying citizen to be labeled an enemy combatant?

And let's face it....if you're calling or making any kind of transaction with any person in/from/or around the middle east, then I want the govt. watching your @$$ too!!

[joepole]

If judging a law by the worst reading, and in the hands of the worst enemies of the Second Amendment includes the ability to make up words that aren't there then there's no point in even discussing any law ever.

For the record I don't like this law and hope it doesn't pass. I don't like it for legit reasons, though, not the fictitious ones given in the above article.

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by joepole

For the record I don't like this law and hope it doesn't pass. I don't like it for legit reasons, though, not the fictitious ones given in the above article.

Yeah but isn't that often the case with legislation? As I grow older I have a tendancy to vote "nay" when it doubt. Not that I fear change, but rather I respect my ancestor's morals more as I grow older. If it aint' broke, then don't fix it!

[Isaac-Saxxon]

We sure do not need more laws to add to the long list of what we can not do.
I would say the police can not enforce the ones on the books now.