Are you a Christian ?

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR

And again, an all knowing and all powerful being couldn't come up with a better solution than having his only child brutally tortured and executed at the hands of a bunch of filthy apes?

Not without turning into an outlaw he coundn't (evidently), you are correct. That was the plan. Maybe it took such a plan to trick satan. Who woulda thought......

[Sheba]

[quote=rhertz]Good question. The answer is simple. God abides by God's laws and satan doesn't. So God had to figure out a way to achieve victory while still keeping his word. While satan is not concerned with keeping his word, much less God's Word. He is a law breaker through and through seeking to defy God.

Good info, rhertz. God will never sacrifice character for comfort. It's the learning process that molds the character.

[Isaac-Saxxon]

[quote=Sheba]

Originally Posted by rhertz

Good question. The answer is simple. God abides by God's laws and satan doesn't. So God had to figure out a way to achieve victory while still keeping his word. While satan is not concerned with keeping his word, much less God's Word. He is a law breaker through and through seeking to defy God.

Good info, rhertz. God will never sacrifice character for comfort. It's the learning process that molds the character.

What a great couple of post here. Sheba your calm strong voice is a good thing to steady the storm thank you

[rhertz]

[quote=Sheba]

Originally Posted by rhertz

Good info, rhertz. God will never sacrifice character for comfort. It's the learning process that molds the character.

Nodding, the big question for me personally is this? Would I do the same as He did? Maybe I would and maybe I wouldn't pass that test of faith by putting true discomfort to the test. I hope I never have to find out, to that extent. Heh, I doubt I would pass that degree of test. But on the otherhand, without being put to the test at some level, how do you know who you really are? Or what you can do?

I do believe this. Raising a family or running a company is uncomfortable at times. Even downright painful. But I do it, and with a smile on my face. Even when I don't feel like it. I don't even know why, which means that it became second nature. This means that something greater than I am has "soaked in" to me, and I am very happy even though I have never worked so hard or been in so much pain before. It seems to me that even "paradise on earth" is a relative thing.

[Santabot]

Originally Posted by rhertz

Brainsmasher, you assume too much in your statement "yet couldn't prevent his own execution". Of course he could. But that was not God's plan now was it? God's plan was something that satan did not expect. Satan assumed too much, and lost a great deal when God gave his only son for us, to establish a new covenant with man. What you see as an execution, others see as a victory in the most important battle in human history. Read the book, satan lost that day. big time.

"God's plan" rewards abortions, murderers, drunk drivers, suicides, thieves, liars, terrorists, and anyone else who makes a decision.. but the decision is already made out for everyone, isn't it? In "God's plan". Do you people even think these irrational thoughts out before taking them to heart?