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Originally Posted by BrainSmshr

The word "Bible" refers to the canonical collections of sacred writings of Judaism and Christianity. Are you trying to imply that this body of written works you refer to as The Bible isn't just another piece of literature?

Yes that is exactly what I am saying. Dr Seuss is literature. The Bible is The Word of God spoken through his devoted servants here on earth. I hope I am being clear enough in stating my belief.

Originally Posted by BrainSmshr

No, I used wikipedia to show that you haven't even attempted research on your side of "the story". It would the the equalivent of me arguing Religion without having first read the Bible.

Wikipedia is riddled with errors and is hardly a definitive resource. Just last week, Wikipedia had Cedric Glovers birthday listed as 1985 until someone fixed it to 1965 the other day. Who is to say this new date is right or wrong? Maybe it is 1955, who knows? The Bible doesn’t change like the wind.

Originally Posted by BrainSmshr

Very good, now how many of them gave first-hand accounts? And while you're at it, explain why the Catholic Church decides which writing to include instead of including all of the "divinely inspired" works? Surely they have noting to hide?

Many gave first-hand accounts. Works are only included after they are canonized, that is, deemed to be the true word of God after much scrutiny (in 180 degree contrast to wikipedia which accepts everything regardless of its nature)

Originally Posted by BrainSmshr

Numbers are important in quantifiable measurements, Like a pay-check. They do not prove right or wrong. One upon a time every black man in the United States was a slave.....did the number make it right? Did the number of people who believed in a flat-Earth make it right?

Numbers are a true indicator of right and wrong. Eventually numbers freed the slaves. It was numbers that proved the flat-earth theory wrong. Nobody ever said numbers are static. They change. If you are very sick and ask 10 doctors what is wrong, and 9 say you have disease “A” while 1 says you have disease “B”, chances are the truth lies with the opinion of the majority for that point in time. If numbers prove nothing, then what does point at the truth? Rhetoric? Whining? Posting it on the Internet?

Originally Posted by BrainSmshr

I see, so your contention, is that because of a single belief about the pyramid and in spite of the numerous works for art, literature, sculpture, etc. that the Egyptians were monotheistic?

I do not know how much knowledge the Egyptian workers had regarding the coming of Christ, but clearly the Pyramid’s designers had considerable knowledge of the coming of Christ. Also if you know anything about the Giza pyramid, clearly it was not designed by the same peoples who designed the other more primitive works (built both before and after the Giza pyramid)

Originally Posted by BrainSmshr

You're "banking" one it? I asked if YOU SPECIFICALLY have ever witnessed a miracle that could not be explained with a scientifically based cause and affect......now you're simply "banking" on one?

No, you asked:
Are you implying that any "miracle" you have witnessed doesn't have a scientifically related cause and affect?

I replied:
Yes, I am not only implying that, but banking on it as part of my faith.

I have witnessed many things that cannot be explained by current science based cause and effect. Doctors have documented sudden cures with no scientific explanation whatsoever. Some individuals have been documented with forms of ESP that cannot be explained by science. Yet Police sometimes use these individuals to located criminals or clues to solving a case. Such as finding a suspected murderer. Some of these things can be explained as “miracles” until such time (if ever) that science can model and explain it. Keep in mind that science and religion aren’t mutually exclusive by any stretch of the imagination. Science is a moving target and updated frequently just like a Wiki.

Originally Posted by BrainSmshr

So then you're saying that approximately 2/3rd's of the Earth is wrong because they are not Christians, yet you have trouble swallowing the concept of 2+ billion Christians being wrong?

The majority believe in the one God of Abraham. This includes Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Contrast that to the tiny fraction who believe in worshiping multiple gods or none at all. I have no problem swallowing the numbers.

Originally Posted by BrainSmshr

No one said it should, however it should have enlightened you to the point that you can't tell truth from fiction.

I am only enlightened by science when it can tell me something. Can science tell if the Bible is the true Word of God or fiction? At this time, perhaps not, but the chances are looking better all the time.

Originally Posted by BrainSmshr

When are you going to produce something that would constitute Evidence? So far you have Faith, and book chock full of heresay.

There is a good amount of scientific documentation supporting the Bible and its status for those who wish to seek it out:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Bible+Evidence

If you truly want evidence, Archaeological finds have confirmed what the Bible teaches. As archaeologists progress, they discover more and more evidence to support the Bible, and very little to debunk it. There are thousands of partial and complete copies of the Bible texts. These manuscripts are very ancient and they are available for inspection right now. Contrast that to literary works like the Iliad and Odyssey.

Originally Posted by BrainSmshr

I see, and what author witnessed the creation of the Earth and all of it's inhabitants again?

Well funny you should mention that. The Bible is the World of God spoken through his faithful servants over many years. The author of the Bible most assuredly witnessed the creation.

Originally Posted by BrainSmshr

I believe my intentions were quite clear. Where is your verifiable and undeniable evidence? Where are Jesus's bones? You're god saves souls, not bodies.....there should be remains.

The Bible clearly states that Jesus arose from the dead on the third day. (bones included) But even if that were not the case, and I had his bones in my possession, then I suspect you would want even more evidence such as genetic testing to prove the bones are whose I say they are.

If God or I or anyone had the obligation to prove his existence to you, then by what yardstick would you measure your own faith in God? Faith means belief in something, not proof of something. One only has to believe to have faith. Faith is not “in the pudding” so to speak.

Originally Posted by BrainSmshr

The difference between Religion and Myth is the number of current believers.

Uh Huh and the difference between a genius and a moron is the number of current IQ points….

Originally Posted by BrainSmshr

In a couple of thousand years, your decendents will laugh at your beliefs just as you laugh at the beliefs of your ancestors.

No doubt that is what some believed a couple of thousand years ago. Wrong so far. Check back in another couple of thousand, will ya?