Water...
 

You know, I have to admit that water really has to be the miracle "drug".

I have increased my water intake from 0 to at least 1 liter plus a couple of 8 ounces glasses from the cooler at work per day and the difference I feel in my body is REALLY amazing.

I kid you people not, I've lost about 50lbs since Christmas (yeah it was nasty), I've eliminated my "need" for an afternoon nap because I can now sleep longer than 5 hours in a row, have virtually eliminated coffee and energy drinks from my diet because I actually PREFER water now (except with meals), and I literally feel "high" most of the day...and I "think" it's because I'm working up a good sweat and my body actually has more than enough water to deal with the situation whereas before, the longer I worked, the worse I felt...and don't even get me started on what it's done for my overall appearance from a physical standpoint as well as how I feel mentally throughout the day.

I REALLY hate to say it, because it took me 36 years to get here, but I've really become fascinated with water and the human body over the last few months.

Bruce Lee
 

Bruce Lee had an great quote about water.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless--like water.
Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup,
You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle,
You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Now water can *flow* or it can *crash*!
Be water, my friend.
-- Bruce Lee
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The water that little brain boy has in his mind is piss :laugh: degenerate Brain !

Come now Isaac, let's not tear the guy down for talking health. I know I don't get enough water in my diet, so this information would be valuable to people like me.

Drinking a healthy amount of water a day, really is quite a "trip".

I agree completely with what ol' Brain has said.

Two summers ago.. I started drinking a whole bunch of water and riding a bicycle about 6 miles a day. at the same time I was working on building the deck around my swimming pool.. In the heat of summer.. and I was much more able to DEAL with the heat. I lost a quick freakin' 20lbs.

could kick myself for having stopped that little experiment !!! :mad:

I had a kidney stone a couple of years back. As the summer months approach us, it is important to drink plenty of water especially this time of year, unless you like pain.... Also lay off the carbonated bevs which turns your body into kalkwasser reactor!

I also like juices. Pomegranate/cherry blend is good, especially for men IMHO.

Surely you must understand by now that his inability to argue a subject rather than the person is why he's on my ignore list?

And in actuality, Anime, you may "suffer" from the same problem I did/do. Even now it's hard for me to walk into a store and buy a bottle of water instead of a coke....and even though I've (and probably you too) heard all our lives about the benefits of good hydration, I swear I would/could not have believed it without having lived it. Even now, I wonder if I've got some kind of brain tumor and THAT'S why I feel better rather than merely drinking water.

2-1 liter bottles a day and you've exceeded your "8 glasses a day" by about 4 ounces, but I will testify that even 3/4 of the recommended "dosage", if you will, produces amazing results in the way you will feel and I can only assume that is a direct result of the health benefits.

Living in his lie ! If I am on your ignore list boy why do you reply to my post ?
You do time to time make good post but your so tainted by all the other post that I find it hard to believe anything you say. You might want to get that brain tumor check out it might be causing your bipolarity.

Brain tumor? That might explain a whole lot. I know a few good oncologists if you need one.

Yeah, sometimes. I'll admit that I almost never drink water. I usually drink soda, tea, or a mixed drink (lemonade, koolaide, etc.). I normally get a taste for water after a hard day's work or exercise.

...and that's the deal, by the time you feel thirsty, you're already suffering from dehydration, just like by the time your skin feels hot, you're already sunburned.

>by the time you feel thirsty, you're already suffering from dehydration,

There's actually no scientific basis for that old wives' tale. Quite a few studies* have shown the opposite to be the case.


*[Phillips, P.A., Rolls, B.J., Ledingham, J.G.G. and Morton, J.J. (1984). Body fluid changes, thirst and drinking in man during free access to water. Physiology and Behavior , 33 , 357-363.] as an example

Thirst itself isn't a sign of dehydration, you can inhale dust and become thirsty. Working up a sweat in the hot sun and feeling thirst IS a symptom of dehydration. If you've actually had a job where you worked in the sun, then you know all about the thirst that can't be quenched. Simply put, access to water doesn't have jack to do with the amount a person consumes or the amount that individual requires.

You know there's a reason you found this information in a 23 year old magazine article and not a medical book....

Take me to the river, drop me in the water
Take me to the river, dip me in the water
Washing me down, washing me down

Man I hate the talking heads..... :D

"Physiology and Behavior" isn't "a magazine" it's a scientific journal. In fact, it's the gold standard of scientific journals in that particular field, as it's the official journal of the International Behavioral Neuroscience Society. That's how scientific studies are vetted, they are published in peer-reviewed journals.

>Simply put, access to water doesn't have jack to do with the amount a person consumes...

I posted a reference that (along with common sense) says it does, what evidence do you offer to support your position?

What you did is post a bibliography entry which neither confirms nor supports your hypothesis. It's merely a reference to a nearly 25 year old study which you obviously didn't want me to read since you didn't include a link.

My guess is because it has more to do with access to water than it does with hydration itself....but that IS just a guess.

It's $4,300 a year to view that journal, so you'll forgive me if I don't give you the link. Will the author's description of the conclusions suffice?

Thirst is, in fact, a very sensitive mechanism for regulating fluid intake, according to Barbara Rolls, PhD, a nutrition researcher at Pennsylvania State University. In a 1984 study in Physiology and Behavior, she and a group of colleagues at Oxford University followed a group of men as they went through their normal day. Left to their own devices, the volunteers became thirsty and drank long before their hydration levels showed any signs of dipping.

Says Rolls, "If people have access to water or other fluid beverages, they seem to do a very good job of maintaining hydration levels."

OK folks, if you drink too much water you could die of "water poisoning" whereas if you don't drink enough, you could die of "dehydration". So even with something as basic and vital as "water", there are limits and therefore there is a balance to be found somewhere in the middle. Just like on this board.. (ducking) hehehehe :D

Also, if you don't know the difference between "a magazine" and a scientific journal I doubt you could read and/or comprehend anything published in one, they're generally not written for a lay audience.

It's certainly more difficult to wrap your head around than Louisiana's castle doctrine statute, something we've all seen you completely misunderstand.

so, we're all agreed then.. we should all drink more water. Period. :peace:

I try to drink my share of water during the week. Get well hydrated, and ready for the weekend ;) wink wink nudge nudge :yes:

Exactly what I said, thirst by itself isn't an indication of dehydration. You haven't made some startling discovery, joe, you've merely "verified" a fact most of us already know in an feeble attempt at starting an argument......better luck next time.

ooops

So when you wrote "...and that's the deal, by the time you feel thirsty, you're already suffering from dehydration" you actually meant "...and that's the deal, by the time you feel thirsty, you're probably not suffering from dehydration?"

They say wars will be fought over it in the future...good a reason as any to drink plenty of it now.

Molon Labe! to you Sir Al. I agree with this post and good to see you on the board like a breath of fresh air. I see the gun bill did not pass :clap:
Isaac

No, What I said in my very next post, specifically to clarify the statement you were questioning was:

You are attempting to take a non specific statement, which was immediately clarified....but you don't care, that doesn't serve your purpose...and trying to argue the point "as if" you didn't read what I posted. Notice I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and assuming you DID read more than my reference to your bibliography entry in that post.

Like I said, you're just trying to start an argument and you've failed, but I'm not quite as easy of a prey to catch. Better luck next time.