Easter (Astarte) is of pagan orgins.
Christ became our Passover when he when he was crucified and defeated
death with his resurrection ! All the blood sacrifices of the Old Testament where stopped. It was the blood of the lamb that saved the Hebrews in the exodus and it was the Blood of the Lamb on the cross that open the door to all of Gods children to eternal life. With that said it is not the eggs or bunnies or sun worship for little children that is wrong it is placing these things in our houses of worship in the place of Christ that is such a abomination to our Lord. EASTER pascha NT:3957 mistranslated "Easter" in Acts 12:4 , KJV, denotes the Passover (RV). The phrase "after the Passover" signifies after the whole festival was at an end. The term "Easter" is not of Christian origin. It is another form of Astarte, one of the titles of the Chaldean goddess, the queen of heaven. The festival of Pasch held by Christians in post- apostolic times was a continuation of the Jewish feast, but was not instituted by Christ, nor was it connected with Lent. From this Pasch the pagan festival of "Easter" was quite distinct and was introduced into the apostate Western religion, as part of the attempt to adapt pagan festivals to Christianity. See PASSOVER. (from Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words ) now read what God had to say about the queen of heaven and those whom worship the queen of heaven in Gods house of worship. Jeremiah 44 http://www.carm.org/kjv/Jer/Jer_44.htm Isaac-Saxxon |
When is Easter
O.k. so when is Easter, Good Friday and Mardi Gras, and how do they determine the dates on these events ??
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Vernal Equinox
The Vernal Equinox was when they celebrated Easter. Eastre was the pagan
goddess of fertility. Bunnies and rolling of eggs . The sunrise services that are done are also a left over of Babylon Sun worship. These are all part of Baal worship. There some very interesting facts to be found in a study of the Assyrian Tablets that where unearthed. I have a link for anybody that would like to take look a very interesting study that agrees with the Bible. http://www.asis.com/~stag/tablets.html Enjoy, Isaac-Saxxon |
Holidays
Most modern Christian holidays are when they are because they were trying to overwrite other religions. Does the Bible make any mention of Jesus being born on December 25th? Of Easter even being during the Spring?
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Christ birthday
The Bible does thru much study tell us that Christ birthday is September 29th
and He began to dwell with man in December ! Religion is man made and Christianity is of Christ. Now Easter is not in the original manuscripts and we should take communion at true Passover. This is not anti Christian but what Christianity is all about. |
Original Meaning
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Sun God, Bel, or Bal, or Baal
Bel and the Dragon. They go hand in hand. The bunnies and eggs are in the church in the "place" of Passover. Christ became our Passover and this is the very thing that makes God "L" very unhappy with the pagan things in the Christian Church.
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This is America and freedom of religion is how we got here
Freedom to be any religion be it Christian, Jew, Pagan or any other religion and when one try's to put the others down to build themselves up it is wrong.Let each stand on its on merits not the slash and burn from others.
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It is unusual for you to say that having bunnies and eggs in church is a Pagan thing and that it makes God unhappy. By Christian standards, the bunnies and eggs are creations of God as well. I dare not say that your beliefs are wrong. However, God surely wouldn't be unhappy that we have chosen to adopt a bit of harmless frivolity with other creations of his. When God said for us to honor our neighbors, I am certain he wasn't merely referring to the guy who lives next door. He wanted us to acknowledge all of our neighboring lifeforms by every sense of the word. Any other detail is unimportant (i.e. race, age, gender, religion, or who the last people to honor your neighbor was). If I am understanding you correctly, I gather that any tradition that was once a Pagan rite or routine is surely wrong in the eyes of God. I take no offense one way or the other, but is this what you are implying? |
You lost me there. What dragon are you referring to?
Dear Tomoshibi, I feel like I know just after three post :rolleyes: You sound well versed in being a pagan and proud of it. If you would like to know about "The Story of Bel and the Dragon" it can be found on page 363 of the "Apocrypha" by Edgar J. Goodspeed along with many other great writings.These are books not canonized in the King James Bible. Makes for a great read and very spiritual. Who was "that old Dragon" is this the man "Ish" that deceived the whole world ?
Isaac-Saxxon Question ? Is there a special meaning to your Avatar name "Tomoshib" ? I tried and I did come up with some ideas as to what it means but nothing for sure. |
Actually, Tomoshibi is a Japanese word meaning "light." I used this as the last name of a fictional character I once wrote about.
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Japanese word meaning "light."
Do you do Japanese Maples ? Make that Light Maples :D
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No, I don't know anything about Japanese Maples, but I do like the Japanese sakura (cherry blossoms). My affiliation with the Japanese culture is mostly due to my anime fandom. I watch a lot of anime ever since I was a kid and I study Japanese sometimes.
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I study Japanese sometimes
I think everybody is turning Japanese :p You sure got the knack of posting quick. Must have been that video clip. Welcome to SB Live Grasshopper !
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Judging by some of the topics of 'Today's Posts' it looks like this forum is going Pagan ??? what's up with that.
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The forum isn't going Pagan as a whole, but I did drop one Pagan-oriented thread in the religious section here. Other than that, there is just this thread that is discussing Easter and it's historical significance.
However, I did notice something on my previous post on this topic. I got my holidays a little crossed. Beltane isn't our equivalent of Easter. Ostara is the Pagan Easter. Sorry for the confusion. Here is a small cut from Lady Bridget's article on this holiday. This will sound a whole lot more sensible. Quote:
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Merry Christmas everyone! And don't give me any crap about Christmas trees or whatever having Pagan origins... (from either side of the equation) Things are whatever you want to make of them sometimes. Truth is relative to what we choose to believe. :D |
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http://www.re-location.org.uk/alaunch70.jpg I think you are just jealous that you don't get to eat bunnies and eggs and you really want to. I know you want to. They might be evil, but they taste so good. |
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Somebody asked "Is this board going Pagan?" I hope not, if it does...I'M GONE! To whomever quoted the Bible as saying "Honor thy neighbor". It's actually "Love thy neighbor". Now you can interpret that many ways I suppose and Isaac can jump in here. I at this stage in my growth as a Christian understand it to mean that I am going to love you as another of God's creations. I do not have to accept you choosing to worship as a Pagan and I don't. It goes against everything written in God's word. I will love my fellow humans and pray for those not in God's will. I do not have to accept things they do not in God's will. It's really that simple. I can still be your friend and I will. I will have dinner with you, but I will try to lead you to a better way with prayer and by living by example. I have to "Honor" my father and mother, not you. |
Gooooooooooooooooo Texaxbelle
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Anime do not take it personal
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Anime- I hope I did not offend you. I certainly don't mean too, but I have to answer to my God and conscience. If this board were to be devoted to and full of Pagans, I in good conscience could not participate. Since it is a diverse board, I am more than happy to and hope that I will have a positive influence on anyone reading my posts, thoughts, and opinions.
As for Brain, I will continue to pray. Really, that's about all you can do with him. |
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By the by, Isaac is right. The Brain with the goofy animated avatar is not likely to be the original BrainSmashR. |
I don't care which Brain he is, his remarks are offensive in all sorts of ways.
As a Christian, I pray for God's will in your life, I pray for you to be happy, healthy, and have all the joy God desires for you. I also pray that you will come to know him. Try it, you'll like it! |
Good post Tbelle
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I have tried it, actually, and I liked it for a time. When I was a kid and throughout much of my teen years, I was a devout Christian. I converted later when I decided Paganism was my truth. This was an educated decision on my part as I have had a very enlightening comparison in my experiences of the two. Pagans believe in God as well (and the Goddess), so I've long since come to know Him, but probably not the way you've come to know him yourself. Again, I have nothing against Christianity. I didn't leave the religion because of any problems I had with it. It just wasn't for me. This is a moot point though, because Christians, in fact, have much in common with Pagans and many never realize it. The lifestyle isn't any different than normal. Many of the holidays we all celebrate have Pagan-related origins, like the one we're discussing here. |
How could you say such a thing ??
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Mother Belle doesn't have anything else to say to Brain Jr. I am quite sure that he got my point the first time and it won't happen again son will it?
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Do you have your eggs ready for the Queen of heaven ?
Time for those fertility rights to be celebrated Sunday morning as the sun worship begins. The queen of heaven in all her glory will save your soul from being turned into chocolate. They will have the egg roll on the white house lawn so if you leave now you can make it. Wake up Christian America and use your eyes for the first time :eek: I wonder if the pagans get mad about the Christians using one of there gods ? Anime what do you think ? I know Tbelle has all her eggs in a row :nono: :nono:
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This is exactly my point Anime
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Congrads on making your 1,000th post! :D You're, by far, the busiest member on SBLive! Rep+
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Passsover vs easter
So if you observe God by observing Passover then you must continue with the Feast of unleavened bread? Right. Observing easter all these past years and then discovering that I may be wrong in my actions has completely rocked my world. As well as reading all these comments. Tell me how y'all deal with the "traditions" you may have been brought up with. My mother-in-law would have me tarred and feathered if I didn't attend the yearly easter get together:laugh:
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easy you say
I sure am glad Christ didn't just sit back and observe when He knew the truth! Of course, it would make my life quite a bit easier. Then that raises another question....
I think I will sit back this year untill I've studied up and become better balanced concerning all this. :D Thanks for the response. You seem very active on this sight. Is that because you got rid of the TV? Sure does free up some time. |
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