Local surgeon arrested in internet sex sting
Local surgeon Milton Slocum arrested in internet sex sting
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I hope he has his soap on a rope
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Slocum??? Is that really his name or his Internet handle?? LMAO Unbelievable if true.
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That name.. HA HA HA HA HA HA .. that's just too darn funny.
The crime is of course a tragedy. But that name. :eek: |
This is probably a stupid post... and if the guy got caught, he got caught.
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Or even worse, I suppose he could come up with the Pete Townsend defense "I was doing research on child pornography" :eek: |
I think stings like this are outrageous and the fact that they result in prosecutions sickens me. The man broke no law. He did nothing with a child, nor did he attempt to. He solicited sex from an adult, that is not against the law.
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And although I agree in principal, I'm left asking myself what is the alternative. Do we wait for him to get ahold of some young girl FIRST, THEN arrest him ? Or should he not try to be stopped in some way BEFORE it happens ? |
I have to disagree here
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Isaac |
I understand both points in this matter. I'd think it's a matter of what they try to prosecute him with. He didn't actually do anything with a 15-yo nor was he ever actually in contact with one to begin with. However, his intention was suspicious. A public indecency charge might apply, but statutory rape should not as the act never happened. Solicitation to a minor is iffy because, as KT suggested, there was actually no minor involved.
In short, can you prosecute someone for having the intention to commit a crime, but never actually having the opportunity to attempt it? I think this just brings up political correctness again. |
>Do we wait for him to get ahold of some young girl FIRST, THEN arrest him ?
Yes, just like with every other crime. >Or should he not try to be stopped in some way BEFORE it happens ? Before what happens? Before he has sex with a 15 year old that doesn't exist? |
I'd like to think that some people still have a conscience that will change their minds when presented with the desire and opportunity to do something wrong. You just have to wait and see if their conscience is stronger than their intention. However, we will never know that if we prosecute before knowing.
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Can't you get busted for the "intent" to do something ? Or if you solicit someone to a do a murder ? |
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For instance, if someone asked a friend of theirs to kill me, it would not become a conspiracy to do so until they plan how and under what circumstances. |
Well, since he ALMOST went thru with it, they should ALMOST prosecute him for it! I'd think the public humiliation and disgrace would be punishment enough...not to mention the damage to his career and whatever loses he incurs with that.
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Excuse me here on this one ...
Would they have to tie a sacrificial lamb to a post and wait till he bites it before they stop his predator like behavior. Please this is not aimed at you guys but having three daughters I feel like this perv should be charged and maybe do some treatment time and have to post his presence in any place he lives. I think the word is pedophile. The courts will have the final say but he is very wrong here ! Very :nono: :nono:
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>I'm waiting for some father with a daughter or two to chime in here
I have two daughters. |
Joe having daughters does not make me the expert
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By the way, I have yet to put anyone on this board "on ignore". I thought I was going to for the first time last weekend. But so far, I'm wide open. There really isn't enough traffic on this board to make it a real problem. |
Cases like this where the wrong-doer has so much to lose...surgeons, astronauts, clergymen...people who occupy positions of trust and respect... people who know the meaning of the word "sacrifice". They apply themselves and work so hard to accomplish these lofty goals, then, in a moment of madness they throw it all away. Just flush their lives right down the crapper. Amazing!
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I was gonna make a tasteless comment...but nevermind.
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Everybody has a weak moment
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Isaac Al you are on the right page on this issue and besides it will be up to the courts anyway. |
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I just about have to agree. I was the first to bring up the 'intent' vs. actually committing the crime. It's just when it comes to Pedophiles whether it's intent or not, just bothers me. I'm all for giving someone the benefit of a doubt when ever I hear of cases like this. I can only imagine how many lives have been ruined because of false accusations. This however was not a false accusation, so it'll be interesting to see how any trial goes. It's like those hooker sting operations.. I mean all you have to do is ASK right ? then you get busted ? |
This is entrapment, plain and simple....but I disagree with letting him "slide" too.
A "sexual encounter" date needed to be setup, and if they guy arrived on the scene, THEN arrest/charge him before he commits the crime but after he has shown clear intention of committing a crime. As it stands, he's done nothing more significant than expose himself as a dirty old man who finds teenage women attractive.....and a lot of us fall into that category. Brooke Hogan, only 18. I rest my case. http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowln...an_1106_sm.jpg |
Slocum, a general surgeon and vascular surgeon who teaches part-time at the medical school here, was arrested at Columbia Park in Shreveport late Tuesday afternoon. Authorities said he had made arrangements for a meeting there to get the pictures.
D'oh Guess I should read the story instead of just the comments. Appears he made arrangements to receive child pornography AND arrived on the scene.....clear cut case of intention to commit a crime as far as I'm concerned. |
Yeah, but she's like a supermodel type. Lechers are to be expected in her case. We're talking about what could have been some 15-year-old girl. If I'm reading the posts right, I think he did go to meet her somewhere and that was where he was busted. I don't know if this meeting was for a sexual plan though.
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The way I understood it is that the purpose of the meeting was to receive pornographic pictures of a 15 year old girl, and he showed up. Clear cut case of intention to acquire illegal goods as far as I'm concerned....simply put, I can no longer dismiss his actions as simple flirting. |
First I would like to ask Joepole how old are his daughters? Are they toddlers, elementary, middle or high school age?
2nd I have an 18 yr old daughter and some of you know her in RL what she looked like at 15, no she didn't look 15!!!! I kept a lock down on her computer during her early teenage years till she moved out the house due to perverts out there just as this dr. I watch to catch a perdator each week and each time one of those guys walk in the house they deserve the 50k bond that is fixing to be slapped on them. When will men wake up and realize what a chlid is vs a legal girl? Is youth so tempting that you loose your career and family over? What do men see in these young girls? Yes they are beautiful but remember they are NOT LEGAL! Is it the innocence of the under age girls that is so tempting like they have never had sex before? Don't men realize in todays society more and more girls are having sex at the ages of 12 and up? Is it the sexy clothes these parents are allowing their under age children to wear that tempts men? If you ask me it's pathetic, sick and immoral but who has high morals these days? If the intent on the internet is talked about having sex, doing this and doing that and sending nude pictures of themselves to under age girls believe me the intent is to have sex with them. In texas they don't even have to show up for the meeting all they have to do is have the intent and they get arrested. I say wake up men and keep your nasty thoughts in your minds and not on the computer because it will cause you more grief in the end if you are caught. And that's my .03! |
>This however was not a false accusation
Sure it was. There no minor involved. |
I do not think the court will see it that way joe
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5'10" and very pretty and does not look 15 so I guard her close because I know how naive she really is. Isaac |
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Jane falsely accusing John of Rape != John getting faked out and caught trying to attempt the crime. One is false accusation and the other is INTENT. Big difference I would think. |
I agree, hence my statement about why public indecency might apply, but rape would not. Solicitating a minor is highly questionable because it wasn't actually a minor. The intent is compelling, but can he be prosecuted for it alone?
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The whole premise of a "sting" seems to be based on a virtual prostitute or a virtual victim because if they used the "real thing", the law enforcers would be breaking the actual law that they are trying to enforce. So the result would be to accept this "catch 22" and not allow stings, or else create laws that work around this "catch 22" so that law enforcers are allowed to setup sting operations. |
Updated News Story
A new story has been added to the "Read More" section of this topic, as follows
KTBS -- Mar 4 2007 4:16 PM Another suspected predator reeled in |
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You know, I've run a few forums and chat rooms in the past and talking sex in such public places can get you in trouble if you don't know how to communicate such things without sounding like a pervert.
A few years ago, I was running a chat room on AOL. Some 17-yo girl sent me an IM asking a question about her relationship, which was common for the topic of my chat room. She was pregnant with the child of some 19-yo guy she knew. We spoke for a while and started talking about the dangers of unprotected sex and why not every birth control method is 100% effective. The real trick with me though is that in such public environments (where the user might actually be a cop), I do not refer to sex as simply "sex." Instead, I substitute this term with a stiffer and more professional-sounding term such as, "sexual intercourse." This helps to stress that my reference to the term is not on a personal level and really makes it hard for someone to say you were flirting or soliciting sex. This is a useful thing to remember when talking sex in public or online. |
Can anyone tell me....
What happened with this... what has become of Slocum???
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I have looked to see what ever happened in this case. I do not live in Shreveport any longer, does anyone know what happened?
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