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BrainSmashR
Advanced Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Natchitoches Age: 36 Posts: 176 Rep Points: -45 Rep Power: 0 Brainy you are getting more popular with your posts! Keep up the good job. ;) |
The wise one has spoken
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I appreciate the kind words and the vote of confidence, Isaac, and Rhertz and LateNight. But I'm no Soloman...I've done far too many dumbass things in my short life, made far too many mistakes. Wish that wasnt the truth, but it is!
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That's fear of the known. We know for a fact what happens when a trains hits anything. We know what happens when fire burns, we know that a fall from just 10ft. has a 50% chance of killing someone. There is even photographic evidence to support these outcomes and enough instances to show a highly predictable pattern. Your justification is on par with being scared of the dark because of the boogie man. An entity no rational person has ever seen, spoken to, or photographed. There is no evidence to support your beliefs and no verifiable data to suggest a predictable outcome. Your entire system of beliefs is based on faith. Quote:
Or are you about to tell me heaven is full of Islamics, Jews, and Hindus because they aren't atheist.:clap: |
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Even King Solomon had his flaws
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It is plain to see you have learned from your mistakes and are well in touch with your maker. The first thing one needs to do to get in touch with God is to look inwards to see ones own flaws. We all have them and to think that science alone can bring one to a eternal life well :rolleyes: :rolleyes: It was pride that cause the fall of Satan and it is pride that causes many people to fail in life. It is pride that will not let someone admit they are wrong or have flaws. Al your way with words makes me smile and your wisdom no matter your flaws is just great. I am sad for our friend that he fights so hard to prove that Christianity is wrong but I think after all the post he has had plenty of time to make a case and I have yet to see anybody agree with the post or attacks on Christians. The five post spam the other day did not get anybody to reply and points to go way down. I never did get any replies to my question has anybody ever read the entire Bible ? I know if I could read Homer I sure would want to read the Bible or Josephus and that would make a person on better footing to say they do not like or do not believe in something other than just to attack it for science sake. I know many people that go to a church that does not teach God's word and that would explain why someone might not believe in God. It is not what the preacher says it is what the Word of God says that matters. Some would call this blind faith and it is blind if you have never read the Bible but after a good read it sure gives strength to ones faith in God. I choose not to put eternal faith in any man but in a much Higher Being God the Eternal One. I hope you "ALL" have a blessed week ! Isaac http://gunbarrelcityradio.com/InGodWeStillTrust.wmv> Diamond Rio Song :clap: :clap: :clap: |
I see, you assume I haven't read the entire Bible, in spite of being a confirmed Catholic, based on my overlooking one question and your inability to read Homer? Maybe the problem is that you surround yourself with people who rely solely on faith and "divine inspiration" rather than first-hand knowledge and therefore can't comprehend someone not following in your footsteps?
You see, friend, my purpose is not to sway your opinion, but rather to make you admit you have noting to base your system of beliefs on other than faith.....and while you haven't come out right with the admission, you've certainly failed at producing what would be considered evidence in any courtroom in the nation. BTW, anyone going to tell me which author witnessed the creation of the Earth and the heavens as described in the book of Genesis?...or was that comment just another lie perpetrated by Christians? |
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You think you are going to "make" people admit to anything. Wrong way to approach this. There is solid evidence that takes much reading and scientific research to find. This forum is not the place to do that. Just as your very long post the other day did nothing but make people turn you off. This country is based on "Christian values" and yes faith. You have your nose so deep in the material world that you can not see the greater things that are there for you if you will only seek them out instead of putting them down. You never did say you read the Bible and telling us that your Catholic requires some faith for me to believe you. Being Catholic, Baptist or any other man made religion is not the same as reading your Bible. Brain do you have family that believes in God ? If so do you attack them for what they believe ? I would guess not. Try reading JOB 38 & 39 just for me PLEASE ! You may think many things about me but you only know me by what I have posted and the same goes for you. If you placed as much time in seeking God as you do on this board you would be a very happy man. You want something you can hold in your hand or see with your very own eyes before you believe in God ? Well I think you should pick up your Bible and give it a read. I do not say this to put you down or sit in judgment of you or anyone as far as that goes but I can tell you it has been very good to me and you can call it what you want but you can not see the blessings until you seek your maker. I will keep you in my prayers and yes I pray each and everyday not for you to be put down but for you to be lifted up by the Holy Spirit. :) God Bless Isaac |
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Well there's really no way for me to respond to this garbage without being overly condescending, so I'll just paraphrase instead of responding to specific comments. Yes I have read the entire Bible on multiple occasions. I'm not some idiot who develops opinions without any knowledge to support those opinions. Now I've got a question for you, have YOU studied any other system of beliefs besides Christianity? Or are you a typical Christian devoid of even a general understanding of alternate religions? You see, your implication is that you think I'm ignorant because you don't think I've read the Bible while my implication is that you are ignorant because the Bible is all you've read..... Remember, knowledge is power and ignorance is a VERY curable condition. |
Such a high opinion of yourself
Well I tried to help but you will have no part so you do as you wish and I will do the same. I do not think you know how to post with out being rude. You go find your god in a "book" that you have your faith in and I will continue to find my hope and truth in the Bible. I bet your a real pleasure to be around on a daily basis. It seems you live to insult and attack people no matter who they are or what they believe to be the truth. It is like you know more than anybody I think that would be called a know it all. Isaac has tried to find even the smallest amount of common ground with the Brain but I have been denied so be it. I know by all the guest on this thread that many members are watching so if any of you out there agree with anything BSr has posted please step up and say so. If not just keep voting and that will be enough.
I would like to thank all you that emailed me in support of my post it was not a wasted email. I think if know one replies to his post in the future he will troll along to another site and find new prey to attack. It was real, it was fun but it was not real fun :nono: Isaac I just noticed your are -62 now you have another record to be proud of :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: |
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Per "Pascal's Wager", it should be crystal clear to you by now, Brain, that the only intelligent, rational, logical, sane choice is to believe. If you follow this line of reasoning to it's inevitable conclusion, you'll come to see that there really IS NO CHOICE! Take that leap o faith, and if He exists, you will be rewarded, if He does not exist, you've lost nothing. If you dont take that leap o faith and it turns out there IS a God, you're pretty much up **** creek, get it? See how that works? Pretty simple isnt it? Even a child can understand it. But maybe I've given you too much credit in assuming you've comprehended the concept? I'll tell ya what Brain, you dont talk like any confirmed catholic I ever knew, and Ive known a few. Quote:
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Hey Mr. Al Swearengen
Check your private messages by your avatar.
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Just some thoughts. While everyone here tries to persuade Brain to change his views..
Anyone who knows me well, will tell you I'm not a "religious" person. But I've been intrigued by much of the discussion here. Especially the views from Isaac and his dislike for "Organized" religion. Probably views I can relate to more than anything else. Makes me thing maybe there's hope for one such as me, cause you are not very likely to find me in a church. Me personally, I feel that as it has been THROUGH OUT TIME.. man looks to a higher being. Be it a sun god, or what have you. Man has always looked for answers, hoping against hope there be some kind of afterlife, be it in heaven or some other paradise. Hoping against hope that when it's all over, there's something to be had other than the BIG DIRT NAP. :) And now I listen to Brains arguments.. he's all about PHYSICAL proof. He's got to be able to see, feel, scientifically proven, everything before he will accept anything. And I can appreciate this. I tend to be very analytical as well. This notion of an All Powerful being just seems to incredible to be true.. I've grown up in a time, where we've gone to the moon, sent satellites to the edge of our solar system. And where scientist make new discoveries all the time. So I understand why Brain likes to throw out facts and numbers to try and prove his side of the argument. As I get older, I've witnessed things.. terrible things.. and personally the passing of my father and TWO of my older brothers. So it would be easy for me to say how could Any god allow such things to happen. Who would make my mother have to witness such things. But I'll tell you something else.. some years ago, I witnessed first hand the miracle that was the birth of my two children. I know first hand I've had angles on my shoulder more than a few times, where either I or friends of mine should all be dead, except for no other reason, we had angles on our side. I take comfort in knowing my brothers and father are together once again, and looking down on us all. I can believe in the Big-Bang theory, but I still have to ask myself what came before that, and who or what is responsible. I can believe in the Big-Bang theory, but the odds of this planet forming as it has, in just the right spot, and for life to form on it.. a million things had to play out just right. at times I envy those who are full of faith, although mine is shaky sometimes at best.. as man has done throughout time.. I hope and pray, I look to the sky for answers, take in the miracle of life around me. And try to live a good life. It may be ol' Brain just hasn't witnessed enough. But I will not pass any kind of judgement. |
Al certainly has a way with words don’t he? I think “Al” is a mixture of the man behind the avatar, along with some old time values and old time ways that have a certain nostalgic appeal in modern society. At first I wasn’t so sure, but now I think he picked his avatar well to suit his beliefs. Better than I did with the Pug.
I don’t have any stats to back me up, but I heard that statistically speaking, the “Wild West” (where people bore arms regularly) was safer than today’s relatively wimpy society where guns are bad. In my humble opinion, if someone doesn’t fear God, then they better fear Smith and Wesson, or else I might have a big problem on my hands. |
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You should have read it....I bet there was at least one group of people you would have put the sword to also, had you the legal authority to do so.` |
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2. The Big Bang is a theory.....is it so hard to believe that the universe simply could have always existed? Hasn't their god always existed? 3. I understand what you are saying about the existence of life on this planet. What about the meteorite discovered in 1996 with signs of microbial life from mars? While it hasn't be confirmed to BE evidence of life, they certainly can't disprove it either.....isn't that one of the religious justifications....that we can't prove god doesn't exist? Simply put, just because WE are the only form of intelligent life that WE know about.....that's doesn't make Earth the sole location for life in the universe. For instance, there IS underwater volcanic activity on Io, one of the moons of Jupiter. The exciting phenomenon here is that there are life forms on Earth that have developed around underwater volcanic vents that have never been exposed to sunlight or even warmth from the sun. The problem, how do we get to Io (approximately 372,000,000 miles), burrow through hundreds of feet of ice, then get a submarine down low enough to examine their volcanic vents for forms of life.....all without any mishaps since we can't simply pull into a dock or orbiting space station for repairs. Understand why our knowledge of the solar system much less the entire universe is so limited? |
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You are just a very difficult person and love to argue. You have your opinions and everyone else has theirs. I would still think that most would disagree that this is not a miracle. I do feel for you whether you would like me to or not. |
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It's a big world, it's a wonderful world, and I've experienced some crazy ****. I can't simply explain it all away with science and numbers. Who knows.. just maybe the jokes on you :) |
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I don't judge a person's worth by their words, but rather by their actions......and you and I simply don't know each other in real life, therefore it's practically impossible for you to do something I would find offensive....unless of course you think your opinion matters when I'm going through something highly emotional, life altering, and devastating, like losing a girlfriend AND being the prime suspect in her murder. That's why I have no use for Isabelle....she never called me guilty, but she certainly was less that sympathetic. In fact, I'd go as far as to say she will respond to this post with something to the extent of it was MY fault.....even knowing shes on my ignore list. She's one of those people who cares more about what others think than about doing the right thing. It was fun to ridicule Tracy and be a part of the "in crowd"...forget that his life was falling apart and getting worse by the minute. That won her a spot on my ignore list....and as I stated, she won't let this slide because what you think about her is more important than what she does. Now, as far as child birth being a "miracle".....maybe our definitions of what constitutes a miracle differ here. In my opinion, a "miracle" is something which has no scientific explanation. Conception, the resulting pregnancy and child birth all have scientific explanation and can be replicated on any corner of the globe....Immaculate conception would be a miracle. |
Brain, Brain, Brain you condesending ? Who would think that ?
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However, the feelings you experience when that moment happens to you is nothing short of miraculous. The miracle in childbirth, though not the process itself, is how this simple process can bring an immeasurable degree of happiness and joy into the lives of two lovers. How does the extraction of a large collection of accumulated chromosomes and proteins bring such a powerful wave of unparalleled joy to the very heart of your soul when you first peer into the new child's eyes? Simple! Because it's a baby, new life, and not merely a collection of chromosomes and proteins. Like any other gift in our world, it is not gift itself, but the feeling that it gives you inside. This is the miracle of childbirth. |
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You’re joking right? Does your attorney know you are chatting about it on the Internet? This just doesn’t seem real, especially considering your past radical religious posts. But if you are serious, my apologies, I’m not asking you to prove it. A man is innocent until proven guilty, and maybe you just like giving the authorities lots to read! |
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I mean I don't want to just come right out and call you a bald-face liar, because that would be intentionally insulting....I'll give you a chance to clarify your statment first. Quote:
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BTW, my talking points being "lost" on folks like you is typical. Notice Rhertz and I had an extensive conversation about the subject and I more or less made him act the role of a zealot whereas you were doing it right from the get go....and have "lost" the point in the process.... Quote:
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Nice try buddy, but man is at the top of the ladder....get used to it. Quote:
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BTW, I never said I was atheist....you did.....and completing the required rituals earns me the title of confirmed Catholic. Quote:
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Me, I judge a person solely by how well they play the guitar. Kansast is ok in my book. Probably better than you or I. (duck) I can’t play a note but I’m a darn good listener. |
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"I said, now I said, pay attention boy!" "That boy is about as sharp as a bowlin' ball." "That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver." "Boy, your lips are movin' but you ain't saying nothin"." "That dog's as subtle as a hand grenade in a barrel of oat meal." (FUNNY):clap: "That boy's just like a tattoo...gets under your skin." "You're built too low. The fast ones go over your head. Ya got a hole in your glove. I keep pitchin' 'em and you keep missin' 'em. Ya gotta keep your eye on the ball. Eye. Ball. I almost had a gag, son. Joke, that is." "Pay attention, boy! I'm cuttin' but you're not bleedin'!" "That boy's so dumb, he thinks a Mexican border pays rent!" "Smart boy, got a mind like a steel trap -- full of mice." :clapbig: |
Ha! Ok, ya got me fair and square...I...I confess...I'm Foghorn Leghorn!
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You guys are so funny! Al, Isaac, rhertz, and LateNight keep up the good work.:clapbig: :clapbig: :clapbig:
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I love Foghorn Leghorn
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Updated News Story
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Nominee of the year
I have been missing in action for few days. After reviewing past replies, I think Brainsmash has won the prize for longest reply and can be named Librarian Kain for ample bibliography. Also, I would like to nominate him for master headbutter that will not conceed an inch.....I think I here the division bell!:D :D
Hey brainsmash Tom cruise is coming to town. What do you think of his religion? |
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