Baby near death

[vixweb]

Yeah, I get what your saying: "men just don't understand." right? My point was that it is not all about the ladies....we care too.

[piemaker720]

Originally Posted by vixweb

Yeah, I get what your saying: "men just don't understand." right? My point was that it is not all about the ladies....we care too.

I'll give you that. Some men do care but not all. Your teens now day have one thing on their mind and it ain't what happens if she gets pregnant. Here an example: man gets a girl pregnant, he says it might not be mine, you'll have to have the baby so we can do a paternity test. Then it's am not paying child support even if it is mine. Who is stuck?

[vixweb]

Whos stuck? The man that wanted the abortion, but now he's gonna have to pay $ for 18 years- and YES the law will make him pay(as they SHOULD) I once worked with a guy that just took home $87.00/week because child support was being garnished-You don't think women have babies JUST to be vindictive? I know It happens. What about the women who say they're on birth control, but arent? This is a two-way street, there are PLENTY of sorry women out there too, but I know- we just dont understand Blah-Blah.....

[piemaker720]

Originally Posted by vixweb

Whos stuck? The man that wanted the abortion, but now he's gonna have to pay $ for 18 years- and YES the law will make him pay(as they SHOULD) I once worked with a guy that just took home $87.00/week because child support was being garnished-You don't think women have babies JUST to be vindictive? I know It happens. What about the women who say they're on birth control, but arent? This is a two-way street, there are PLENTY of sorry women out there too, but I know- we just dont understand Blah-Blah.....

That is true, there are some scummy women just as much as scummy men. As for child support, my daughter took her ex to court a year ago. They ordered him to pay, he still hasn't. The suppoet enforcement says the only thing they can do is flag his drivers license, so don't tell me the law will make them pay. There's a lady I know hasn't recieved child support in 3 years, the support enforcer says if he ain't got then there is nothing they can do. No undoubtly you still don't get it. Boo-hoo-hoo.

[Texasbelle]

Originally Posted by vixweb

Whos stuck? The man that wanted the abortion, but now he's gonna have to pay $ for 18 years- and YES the law will make him pay(as they SHOULD) I once worked with a guy that just took home $87.00/week because child support was being garnished-You don't think women have babies JUST to be vindictive? I know It happens. What about the women who say they're on birth control, but arent? This is a two-way street, there are PLENTY of sorry women out there too, but I know- we just dont understand Blah-Blah.....

But how much money per week did the guy make and how much were the kids getting? Those are VERY important factors which you perhaps don't know. Most men do absolutely everything within their power to get out of paying child support or try to pay as little as possible. And do this while seeming to forget how much it takes to take care of a child.

You know while you are bemoaning the fact that a woman will lie about birth control...let's not forget that you as a man ALWAYS has the option to put a raincoat on and be safe and sure each and every time. Yes, there are sorry women out there but it's not often you'll find us shirking our responsbilities to our children like the men do.

[Isaac-Saxxon]

Originally Posted by Texasbelle

But how much money per week did the guy make and how much were the kids getting? Those are VERY important factors which you perhaps don't know. Most men do absolutely everything within their power to get out of paying child support or try to pay as little as possible. And do this while seeming to forget how much it takes to take care of a child.

You know while you are bemoaning the fact that a woman will lie about birth control...let's not forget that you as a man ALWAYS has the option to put a raincoat on and be safe and sure each and every time. Yes, there are sorry women out there but it's not often you'll find us shirking our responsibilities to our children like the men do.

It is all about the American dollar and how many of them can you bring to the table Put out or get out or no pay no play.
Money it's a trip ...................

[Pocahontas]

Just for the record I don't believe in abortion and in that private decision I pray the woman would choose to have the baby. More than likely she will have the brunt of the responsibility of rearing that baby. There is always adoption and many many loving couples waiting to take that loved one and raise it as their own. Of course money most certainly comes into play from birth to weddings the gravy train keeps a rollin'!

[rhertz]

Originally Posted by Pocahontas

More than likely she will have the brunt of the responsibility of rearing that baby.

If by "rearing" you mean taking the baby to the store or to the doctor, then I agree. But if you mean paying for the visit to the store or to the doctor, then I wholeheartedly disagree. Man and woman each have their part in the cycle of life. Mine seems to be paying bills and insurance premiums.

I am not loved for this. When was the last time my wife or kids said "Hey Dad, thanks for knocking out this months mortgage note". Or "Hey Dad, this electricity sure is nice". But I know I'm more than loved. I'm needed. Just like baby's need their moms.

[piemaker720]

Originally Posted by Texasbelle

But how much money per week did the guy make and how much were the kids getting? Those are VERY important factors which you perhaps don't know. Most men do absolutely everything within their power to get out of paying child support or try to pay as little as possible. And do this while seeming to forget how much it takes to take care of a child.

You know while you are bemoaning the fact that a woman will lie about birth control...let's not forget that you as a man ALWAYS has the option to put a raincoat on and be safe and sure each and every time. Yes, there are sorry women out there but it's not often you'll find us shirking our responsbilities to our children like the men do.

Thank you Belle for your comment. It is the woman that has the most responsibility for their child. As I have said abortion is not for me but I will not tell another woman what to do, it has to be their decision. They are the ones that will have to live with their decision. I'm sorry if it is wrong but that is how I feel. Now days you can tell a woman it is wrong to have an abortion, she has the child then kills it then can you truely not feel resonpsable. Or you can tell her to have one then she can't forgive you emotionally. I would rather it be their own decision. In my home town, years ago, there was this man who had 4 little girls, the oldest around 9. His wife left him so he took the girls out one day, stopped on a dirt road told them to get out and run down the road. As they ran he shot each to death, loaded them up in the back of his station wagon and took them to the funeral home. He went in told the workers he killed his children and they were in the back of his car to go get them. All that happened to him he stayed a while in a nut house. Sad, very sad.