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joepole · 06-11-2007, 01:39 PM

>Had you actually used the context of the entire post, you would have realized exactly who all will be affected by this proposal if it becomes law.

I read the linked article, which is why I later gave the total number of under-21 (I realize the law says under 20, but I don't have those stats, sot the ones I do have will have to do because they are close enough for estimation) students an NSU. That was when we were discussing this proposed law, though, not when i was correcting your erroneous population estimates.

Isaac-Saxxon · 06-11-2007, 03:06 PM

I tend to not trust numbers that are even like 300 people were killed ? Not 299 or 301 killed

I do agree that 9000 freshmen would be very erroneous

and a bit "obtuse"

joepole · 06-11-2007, 04:00 PM

I recognized that 9,000 was an estimate, not an exact figure, so anything close wouldn't have spawned a correction. When I looked up the correct number, however, it was MUCH less than that so i figured I'd tell everybody what it was.

Then the...unpleasantness...happened.

LateNight · 06-11-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole

Then the...unpleasantness...happened.

LMAO.. that's the funniest thing I've heard all day.

BrainSmashR · 06-11-2007, 04:17 PM

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>your insistence that I the proposal only affected freshman because that's the only group I used in my example.*

I never** said you did, all I did was correct your way-off estimate of the number of Freshmen and then correct your "there used to be more" defense of your original incorrect estimate.

post #27:
I never said it did, You were the one that specified Freshmen-only:

You have clearly accused me of specifying freshmen only. Below you will see me clarify this statement, at which point you accuse me of contradicting myself.

Post #29:
>I did not specify freshman only, I gave you an estimate of the number of incoming freshman.

If you cannot see that contradiction then I am genuinely surprised you have the motor function to operate a computer keyboard.

And below, we see you tell the same lie again.

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See there it is, again. You most certainly specified Freshmen only:

You clearly accusing me, again, of specifying freshmen only.

Shall I continue?

BrainSmashR · 06-11-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole

>Had you actually used the context of the entire post, you would have realized exactly who all will be affected by this proposal if it becomes law.

I read the linked article, which is why I later gave the total number of under-21 (I realize the law says under 20, but I don't have those stats, sot the ones I do have will have to do because they are close enough for estimation) students an NSU. That was when we were discussing this proposed law, though, not when i was correcting your erroneous population estimates.

Quite right, you also continually omitted 5 additional schools, from your numbers.

Look dude, if all you were doing was correcting my numbers, this thread would be over, because I've admitted more than once that my numbers were inflated, but you're lying and I've given you 2 examples above AND an example of your use of propaganda based on those lies.

Isaac-Saxxon · 06-11-2007, 04:46 PM

obtuse has let his mouth over load his ..........

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will he ever learn when he is playing out of his league ???

joepole · 06-11-2007, 05:03 PM

My numbers were for NSU, so I didn't omit anyone.

>Look dude, if all you were doing was correcting my numbers, this thread would be over,

Apparently not, homey, because that's what I did, yet here we are still arguing about it.

Also, do you even know what "propaganda" means? Hint: it's not by definition (indeed, it usually isn't in practice) a bad thing.

BrainSmashR · 06-12-2007, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by joepole

My numbers were for NSU, so I didn't omit anyone.

Graduate School and Scholars College students are not listed as undergraduate. Even if your intention was "only" NSU, you've still omitted 2 entire schools affiliated with and located on NSU campus. I have made this statement more than once and have posted the entire list of schools within the city limits of Natchitoches that you omitted at least once.

And if you want to get technical about it, the Louisiana Schools is located on NSU campus as well, dorms, classes, every single bit of it.

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>Look dude, if all you were doing was correcting my numbers, this thread would be over,

Apparently not, homey, because that's what I did, yet here we are still arguing about it.

I have never argued your corrections and this has got to be about the 5th time I have stated that exact phrase in one form or another....homo err, "homey"
There's really no reason for this argument to reappear over and over again other than to perpetuate your little game, which I'm more than willing to continue....

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Also, do you even know what "propaganda" means? Hint: it's not by definition (indeed, it usually isn't in practice) a bad thing.

The utilization of propaganda to promote false ideas and beliefs is, always has been, and always will be, a bad thing.

And did you think I wouldn't notice your failure to address the blatant lies above, or shall we pretend that never happened?

joepole · 06-12-2007, 08:40 AM

>Graduate School and Scholars College students are not listed as undergraduate. Even if your intention was "only" NSU, you've still omitted 2 entire schools affiliated with and located on NSU campus.

Scholar's college is included, there are no graduate students (that I can find) under age 20.

>The utilization of propaganda to promote false ideas and beliefs is, always has been, and always will be, a bad thing.

That is true, but the utilization of propaganda to promote true ideas and beliefs is, almost always has been, and will almost always continue to be, a good thing.

>And did you think I wouldn't notice your failure to address the blatant lies above, or shall we pretend that never happened?

I'm not exactly sure what these supposed "blatant lies" are. I see yours, but I don't even see a listing of the ones I supposedly posted.

joepole · 06-12-2007, 08:44 AM

Interesting twist: I finally read the bill instead of just the article. It doesn't apply to college students or college teachers/professors.

joepole · 06-12-2007, 08:47 AM

Post by BrainSmashR

>It's all females, 19 and under I think it was, that are enrolled in school

It's actually all students of either gender, 18 and under, excluding colleges and universities.

BrainSmashR · 06-12-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole

>Graduate School and Scholars College students are not listed as undergraduate. Even if your intention was "only" NSU, you've still omitted 2 entire schools affiliated with and located on NSU campus.

Scholar's college is included, there are no graduate students (that I can find) under age 20.

Scholar's College is in fact a separate institution just like the Lab school, the Middle Lab school, and the Louisiana School which are all on NSU campus and I'm more than willing to bet you did not find information grouping them together.....however if you care to provide said reference, I'm all ears.

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>The utilization of propaganda to promote false ideas and beliefs is, always has been, and always will be, a bad thing.

That is true, but the utilization of propaganda to promote true ideas and beliefs is, almost always has been, and will almost always continue to be, a good thing.

Agreed, except you've chosen to utilize lies and deception and those are not characteristics of someone trying to do good.

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>And did you think I wouldn't notice your failure to address the blatant lies above, or shall we pretend that never happened?

I'm not exactly sure what these supposed "blatant lies" are. I see yours, but I don't even see a listing of the ones I supposedly posted.

Nor did I expect you to see them, but everyone else did.

joepole · 06-12-2007, 03:09 PM

>Agreed, except you've chosen to utilize lies and deception and those are not characteristics of someone trying to do good.

Incorrect. I simply supplied correct population figures.

>Scholar's College is in fact a separate institution just like the Lab school, the Middle Lab school, and the Louisiana School which are all on NSU campus and I'm more than willing to bet you did not find information grouping them together.

My data included the Scholar's college as part of NSU.

joepole · 06-12-2007, 03:10 PM

>Nor did I expect you to see them, but everyone else did

Then can everyone else fill me in on my blatant lies?

06-11-2007, 03:06 PM	#47
Isaac-Saxxon SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,421 Rep Power: 318	I tend to not trust numbers that are even like 300 people were killed ? Not 299 or 301 killed I do agree that 9000 freshmen would be very erroneous and a bit "obtuse" __________________ Maranatha Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

06-11-2007, 04:46 PM	#52
Isaac-Saxxon SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,421 Rep Power: 318	obtuse has let his mouth over load his .......... will he ever learn when he is playing out of his league ??? __________________ Maranatha Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

06-11-2007, 01:39 PM	#46
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 259	>Had you actually used the context of the entire post, you would have realized exactly who all will be affected by this proposal if it becomes law. I read the linked article, which is why I later gave the total number of under-21 (I realize the law says under 20, but I don't have those stats, sot the ones I do have will have to do because they are close enough for estimation) students an NSU. That was when we were discussing this proposed law, though, not when i was correcting your erroneous population estimates.

06-11-2007, 04:00 PM	#48
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 259	I recognized that 9,000 was an estimate, not an exact figure, so anything close wouldn't have spawned a correction. When I looked up the correct number, however, it was MUCH less than that so i figured I'd tell everybody what it was. Then the...unpleasantness...happened.

06-11-2007, 05:03 PM	#53
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 259	My numbers were for NSU, so I didn't omit anyone. >Look dude, if all you were doing was correcting my numbers, this thread would be over, Apparently not, homey, because that's what I did, yet here we are still arguing about it. Also, do you even know what "propaganda" means? Hint: it's not by definition (indeed, it usually isn't in practice) a bad thing.

06-12-2007, 08:40 AM	#55
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 259	>Graduate School and Scholars College students are not listed as undergraduate. Even if your intention was "only" NSU, you've still omitted 2 entire schools affiliated with and located on NSU campus. Scholar's college is included, there are no graduate students (that I can find) under age 20. >The utilization of propaganda to promote false ideas and beliefs is, always has been, and always will be, a bad thing. That is true, but the utilization of propaganda to promote true ideas and beliefs is, almost always has been, and will almost always continue to be, a good thing. >And did you think I wouldn't notice your failure to address the blatant lies above, or shall we pretend that never happened? I'm not exactly sure what these supposed "blatant lies" are. I see yours, but I don't even see a listing of the ones I supposedly posted.

06-12-2007, 08:44 AM	#56
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 259	Interesting twist: I finally read the bill instead of just the article. It doesn't apply to college students or college teachers/professors.

06-12-2007, 08:47 AM	#57
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 259	Post by BrainSmashR >It's all females, 19 and under I think it was, that are enrolled in school It's actually all students of either gender, 18 and under, excluding colleges and universities.

06-12-2007, 03:09 PM	#59
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 259	>Agreed, except you've chosen to utilize lies and deception and those are not characteristics of someone trying to do good. Incorrect. I simply supplied correct population figures. >Scholar's College is in fact a separate institution just like the Lab school, the Middle Lab school, and the Louisiana School which are all on NSU campus and I'm more than willing to bet you did not find information grouping them together. My data included the Scholar's college as part of NSU.

06-12-2007, 03:10 PM	#60
joepole SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 259	>Nor did I expect you to see them, but everyone else did Then can everyone else fill me in on my blatant lies?

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