Rep. Ron Paul ! What do you think ????

Al Swearengen · 12-02-2007, 07:49 PM

Just what exactly is it about him or his campaign that makes him a "nut"? Paul is the only true republican candidate, and he exposes the others for the frauds they are. Some of you people scare the hell out of me. But hey, just go right ahead and cast your vote for one of those phony republicans you're all so enamored with.

Isaac-Saxxon · 12-03-2007, 08:20 AM

Did anybody watch the debate ? Who won ?

Pocahontas · 12-03-2007, 08:26 AM

Guess none of us apathetic folks watched. I didn't. Sad but true!

LateNight · 12-03-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocahontas

Guess none of us apathetic folks watched. I didn't. Sad but true!

Oh I watched it.. it was the Guliani, Romney show for the most part. They both got just enough air time to hang themselves if you ask me.
I felt Ron Paul didn't get enough time, and they asked him some pretty loaded questions. If I had to say who 'won' that debate.. I think Huckabee did fairly well.. or at least came across that way.

Ron Paul cured me of my apathy.

Isaac-Saxxon · 12-03-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LateNight

Oh I watched it.. it was the Guliani, Romney show for the most part. They both got just enough air time to hang themselves if you ask me.
I felt Ron Paul didn't get enough time, and they asked him some pretty loaded questions. If I had to say who 'won' that debate.. I think Huckabee did fairly well.. or at least came across that way.

Ron Paul cured me of my apathy.

It is good to see you get over your apathy LN. I had a visit with a man this morning and he liked RP and said that RP just lacked the charisma he needed.

LateNight · 12-03-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon

It is good to see you get over your apathy LN. I had a visit with a man this morning and he liked RP and said that RP just lacked the charisma he needed.

Granted, the man is no "politician"

rhertz · 12-03-2007, 02:36 PM

Maybe he should hire a guru like James Carville or Dick Morris to polish his presentation... (NOT!)

Kherty · 12-22-2007, 08:21 PM

I watched the debate and I was shocked at how frivolous Romney and Guiliani are in terms of taking issues seriously. They always seem to be taking stabs at each other (or Fred) and act like a couple of high school kids cracking jokes. I don't know how anybody can take any of these candidates seriously when so much is at stake.

I was raised a Republican in a Republican home. My family was very conservative and professional. I was private schooled and college educated. I voted for Bush when I felt he was a good candidate. But I feel saddened about the state of the political system in this country. It has become so polarized and for once in my life I've actually felt alienated by both parties. I'm no longer a supporter of this "neocon" regime and spent a lot of time educating myself about the policies of Ron Paul.

One of the most important issues that I support Ron Paul is the non-interventionist foreign policy. I own a business with a partner in Ireland and have friends who live in Australia, Spain and England. I've become embarrassed of our political actions in Iraq and our "empire building" tradition. Especially when our domestic problems are mounting and our dollar is crumbling. Which is the second major reason why I'm a Paul supporter. I feel our economic situation is dire and I've actually come to an agreement with my partner in Ireland to start charging in Euros for our goods since the American dollar is so weak.

The first sign of the fall of an "empire" is the weakening of the currency. Our American empire supports over 700 military bases worldwide and costs us billions of dollars a year to maintain. Meanwhile, we are stuck borrowing from the Chinese to finance our needs.

What has our country come to?

Isaac-Saxxon · 12-23-2007, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kherty

I watched the debate and I was shocked at how frivolous Romney and Guiliani are in terms of taking issues seriously. They always seem to be taking stabs at each other (or Fred) and act like a couple of high school kids cracking jokes. I don't know how anybody can take any of these candidates seriously when so much is at stake.

I was raised a Republican in a Republican home. My family was very conservative and professional. I was private schooled and college educated. I voted for Bush when I felt he was a good candidate. But I feel saddened about the state of the political system in this country. It has become so polarized and for once in my life I've actually felt alienated by both parties. I'm no longer a supporter of this "neocon" regime and spent a lot of time educating myself about the policies of Ron Paul.

One of the most important issues that I support Ron Paul is the non-interventionist foreign policy. I own a business with a partner in Ireland and have friends who live in Australia, Spain and England. I've become embarrassed of our political actions in Iraq and our "empire building" tradition. Especially when our domestic problems are mounting and our dollar is crumbling. Which is the second major reason why I'm a Paul supporter. I feel our economic situation is dire and I've actually come to an agreement with my partner in Ireland to start charging in Euros for our goods since the American dollar is so weak.

The first sign of the fall of an "empire" is the weakening of the currency. Our American empire supports over 700 military bases worldwide and costs us billions of dollars a year to maintain. Meanwhile, we are stuck borrowing from the Chinese to finance our needs.

What has our country come to?

If you are ashamed of this country and currency maybe time for you to move to the UK. They are the cut bait and run crowd and I am sure you will fit right in. This country will never fall !!! It maybe time for a culling away of those who do not support this country. By the way Bush is not running for president this time FYI

It does seem that RP supporters are very aggressive with the attacks I do not see this helping Dr. Paul

Oh and welcome to the board

howela · 12-04-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon

Did anybody watch the debate ? Who won ?

I watched it and to say who "won" would depend on what you were looking for in a candidate.
I was impressed with several who appeared genuine in their answers including Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, John McCain and Ron Paul.
I thought Romney sounded plastic, although I've liked his position in the past.
Mike Huckabee seemed to connect with the audience more than the others.
Ron Paul was the most committed to his position. By that I mean he told you how he felt about an issue when others would try to spin it ;IE, the waterboading question. Ron Paul would answer honestly and unbending sometimes amidst booing from the crowd.
I thought John McCain was what has been referred to as sounding the most "Presidential".
Fred Thompson spoke and I heard him but like our day long company meetings... afterward I couldn't tell one thing he said. Like the peanuts cartoon... Waw waw waw wah..wah wah.

vixweb · 12-03-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Swearengen

Just what exactly is it about him or his campaign that makes him a "nut"?

If you've heard him speak, you shouldnt even need to ask that. He's a loon.

LateNight · 12-03-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vixweb

If you've heard him speak, you shouldnt even need to ask that. He's a loon.

Other than your love for this war.. what of his do you disagree with ?

Isaac-Saxxon · 12-03-2007, 05:08 PM

I am still open for debate on Ron Paul. I have been to his web site. I would like to hear from Al and LN on what it is you like about him. Short list I can do my homework. Vix what is it you do not like about him ? Short list. Can this man beat the Federal Government Machine ?? He has to have Congress behind him to do anything. I am still very much up in the air on who I will choose ? I welcome any comments. Joepole some of you wisdom here please !

LateNight · 12-03-2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon

I am still open for debate on Ron Paul. I have been to his web site. I would like to hear from Al and LN on what it is you like about him. Short list I can do my homework. Vix what is it you do not like about him ? Short list. Can this man beat the Federal Government Machine ?? He has to have Congress behind him to do anything. I am still very much up in the air on who I will choose ? I welcome any comments. Joepole some of you wisdom here please !

Isaac, times like now I wish I was a better debater.

For me, it's the amount of common sense on the issues at hand when I hear Ron Paul speak. Ron Paul's been around a long time. Certainly there are things he would like to change, that may or may not happen, they would require much help from congress and senate to ever pass..

But put simply, if it were up to Ron Paul, he would drastically reduce the size of the Federal Government. Get it back to what it was meant to be, not the huge machine that it is today. Take the Federal Government OUT of the things that it shouldn't be in the business of in the first place, or that it doesn't do very well.

Many things that he speaks of are true "republican ideas" or at least USED TO BE. Smaller government, get the feds out of personal lives.. a strong defense, that doesn't go anywhere. Stop fighting these wars that are bleeding us dry. Don't send troops in because of some UN resolution.

Many of us are working 4 months out of a year, just to pay our taxes each year.. Ron Paul would like very much for us to be able to keep most if not all of that money. Which would be very possible.. end this war in Iraq.. quit sending all this money overseas..

What ever your feelings are on this Iraq war.. whether you are for or against it.. there's just no way we can continue to afford it.. we can't foot the bill anymore. it's bleeding us dry financially. not that there are certain companies making a bloody fortune from it with all the privatizing they done with aspects of the war. Not to mention, our tax dollars, pay to blow up **** over there, so our tax dollars can pay to FIX it. meanwhile our own infrastructure at home falls apart.

Some people freak out when they hear Ron Paul wants to get rid of the Department of Education.. it's my understanding, the Department of Education as we know it, didn't exist until 1980 ? Ronald Reagan wanted to do away with it. For Ron Paul, so much of these things should be considered on the Local level.. take for instance PRAYER IN SCHOOL.. feds say we can't have that.. now if prayer in school was left up to the states, the local level.. I guarandamnteeya, we'd have prayer in schools right here in Louisiana !!

Because of the Feds, airline pilots aren't allowed to arm themselves.. hell an armored car vehicle can protect their cargo, but an airline pilot can't ? why not ? we entrust them with our lives to fly us from here to there.. if we left that kind of thing up to the Airlines.. 9/11 never happens.

Many of the issues that bother us today, abortion, prayer in school, etc.. they take up so much of our time in Presidential Debates.. never should happen, these things should be considered at the Local level, it's what the founding fathers had intended.

Ron Paul is very much Against Abortion, the man has delivered many a baby. But he simply doesn't believe it should be considered on the Federal level.

He's a big supporter of your second amendment rights. He receives the highest scores from the NRA etc..

He's often mistaken for being an isolationist... which is wrong.. he's all about working with other countries, just doesn't want our troops all over the globe, unless we are declaring war against someone.

As long we expect so much from the Feds.. the more they OWN us. And they know this.

on a side note.. I heard elsewhere on these message boards, someone was complaining about Ron Paul, said he was the lone vote against Rosa Parks receiving a congressional medal of honor. Some people call him a racists because of it. Well the story I hear, he has nothing but great respect for the woman.. just doesn't think the $30,000 it takes to make one of those things.. is not a good use of Tax Payer money.. he suggested members of congress pony up the money for it instead..

I don't do any of his comments or arguments justice. I would suggest reading Ron Pauls thoughts on all these issues and more here:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

the issues:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/

his writings:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/articles/

Isaac-Saxxon · 12-04-2007, 09:09 AM

This is the kind of post I like to read. It is good to see you so proactive. Can RP make the jump ? Only time can tell.

12-02-2007, 07:49 PM	#1
Al Swearengen Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 849 Rep Power: 248	Just what exactly is it about him or his campaign that makes him a "nut"? Paul is the only true republican candidate, and he exposes the others for the frauds they are. Some of you people scare the hell out of me. But hey, just go right ahead and cast your vote for one of those phony republicans you're all so enamored with. __________________ Molon Labe! Last edited by Al Swearengen; 12-02-2007 at 09:19 PM.

12-03-2007, 08:20 AM	#2
Isaac-Saxxon SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,421 Rep Power: 319	Did anybody watch the debate ? Who won ? __________________ Maranatha Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

12-03-2007, 08:26 AM	#3
Pocahontas SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,691 Rep Power: 273	Guess none of us apathetic folks watched. I didn't. Sad but true! __________________ "The greater your capacity to love, the greater your capacity to feel the pain." Jennifer Aniston

12-03-2007, 05:08 PM	#13
Isaac-Saxxon SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,421 Rep Power: 319	I am still open for debate on Ron Paul. I have been to his web site. I would like to hear from Al and LN on what it is you like about him. Short list I can do my homework. Vix what is it you do not like about him ? Short list. Can this man beat the Federal Government Machine ?? He has to have Congress behind him to do anything. I am still very much up in the air on who I will choose ? I welcome any comments. Joepole some of you wisdom here please ! __________________ Maranatha Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

12-04-2007, 09:09 AM	#15
Isaac-Saxxon SBLive! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,421 Rep Power: 319	This is the kind of post I like to read. It is good to see you so proactive. Can RP make the jump ? Only time can tell. __________________ Maranatha Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

12-03-2007, 02:36 PM	#7
rhertz SBLive! Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,834 Rep Power: 295	Maybe he should hire a guru like James Carville or Dick Morris to polish his presentation... (NOT!)

12-22-2007, 08:21 PM	#8
Kherty New Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	I watched the debate and I was shocked at how frivolous Romney and Guiliani are in terms of taking issues seriously. They always seem to be taking stabs at each other (or Fred) and act like a couple of high school kids cracking jokes. I don't know how anybody can take any of these candidates seriously when so much is at stake. I was raised a Republican in a Republican home. My family was very conservative and professional. I was private schooled and college educated. I voted for Bush when I felt he was a good candidate. But I feel saddened about the state of the political system in this country. It has become so polarized and for once in my life I've actually felt alienated by both parties. I'm no longer a supporter of this "neocon" regime and spent a lot of time educating myself about the policies of Ron Paul. One of the most important issues that I support Ron Paul is the non-interventionist foreign policy. I own a business with a partner in Ireland and have friends who live in Australia, Spain and England. I've become embarrassed of our political actions in Iraq and our "empire building" tradition. Especially when our domestic problems are mounting and our dollar is crumbling. Which is the second major reason why I'm a Paul supporter. I feel our economic situation is dire and I've actually come to an agreement with my partner in Ireland to start charging in Euros for our goods since the American dollar is so weak. The first sign of the fall of an "empire" is the weakening of the currency. Our American empire supports over 700 military bases worldwide and costs us billions of dollars a year to maintain. Meanwhile, we are stuck borrowing from the Chinese to finance our needs. What has our country come to?

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