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Old 08-09-2007, 03:25 PM   #16
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He knows he is IS and thrives on it. He just enjoys "trying" to use the shock factor.
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Old 08-09-2007, 04:35 PM   #17
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He just can't help but show his true colors every now and then.
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>you can do good and you can do bad do you think of yourself as a jerk

If I do bad? Of course I would. You wouldn't?
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Old 08-09-2007, 05:35 PM   #19
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>you can do good and you can do bad do you think of yourself as a jerk

If I do bad? Of course I would. You wouldn't?
It comes down to what you think is bad joepole. We all have different standards and yours is quite different. So don't be the first to point the finger at your creator you might have a face with him one day. I think they call that a come to Jesus meeting. Asbestos britches would come in handy
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Old 08-09-2007, 05:57 PM   #20
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Anybody who would create me just to tempt me and test my loyalty is a serious azzhole. If I treated my kids like that I'd expect them to hate me.
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Old 08-09-2007, 06:09 PM   #21
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Do you believe in any type of higher being??
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"Higher being" is a subjective, and therefore meaningless for discussion between different people, term.

Do I believe in a sapient entity that created/controls the universe? No, why would I? The evidence supporting that idea is pretty weak.
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"Higher being" is a subjective, and therefore meaningless for discussion between different people, term.

Do I believe in a sapient entity that created/controls the universe? No, why would I? The evidence supporting that idea is pretty weak.
It is not meant for all to see Pokie it is written that many would have blindfolds on. Ignorance is bliss in this case. There is a thousand year period that will offer hope for those that choose to be blind now. joepole is much better off to believe in nothing than the wrong thing. You are going a step further and sticking your finger out hope it does not bite you in the ass one day joepole
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:41 PM   #24
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Heh, ignorance.

I can even accept that some people can just believe that there is a sapient creator, that they just "know" it to be true, but to believe a specific, man-made story like any of the major religions is ridiculous for an adult.

"I believe that a God sent his son to earth in the form of a human so that we could kill him to save ourselves from the wrath of our omnipotent creator that, for some reason, granted us free will and then punished us for exercising it in a way he didn't like."

"why do you believe that?"

"Because of...ummm....all the...uhh...evidence that says it's true. There's a book and everything! Mine is the right one, though, all the other religions with books and even longer histories are false. I also believe this book to be literally true to the letter, even though it has been re-translated hundreds of times and changed to suit the whims of Kings and clergy."
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Wow....So many fools- except for joepole, of course, who laughs at all us poor "believers". tsk-tsk-tsk
If only we could understand what HE's figured out.....
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Heh, ignorance.

I can even accept that some people can just believe that there is a sapient creator, that they just "know" it to be true, but to believe a specific, man-made story like any of the major religions is ridiculous for an adult.

"I believe that a God sent his son to earth in the form of a human so that we could kill him to save ourselves from the wrath of our omnipotent creator that, for some reason, granted us free will and then punished us for exercising it in a way he didn't like."

"why do you believe that?"

"Because of...ummm....all the...uhh...evidence that says it's true. There's a book and everything! Mine is the right one, though, all the other religions with books and even longer histories are false. I also believe this book to be literally true to the letter, even though it has been re-translated hundreds of times and changed to suit the whims of Kings and clergy."
Well wise pole. You have done no studies in the ancient manuscripts and use the tools to see for yourself how it was translated and how it should be translated. You base your statement on a dimension of physical rules and you do not seem to have a clue about the spiritual dimension. You will joe in time have that chance and if you have never know the truth about the Bible then you are not responsible for your ignorance. Yes there is hope for you joe but I myself will pass on the millennium long school of learning and get my crown the first go around.
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did I miss something ? is BrainSmashR back ? LOL I do so miss these debates.

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did I miss something ? is BrainSmashR back ? LOL I do so miss these debates.

peace out.
I don't think he's back but would seem that Joe drank from the same cup of Kool Aid.

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Hahaha, I'm the ignorant one that thinks for himself.

Seriously, though, nothing other than ad hominem arguments?
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Hahaha, I'm the ignorant one that thinks for himself.

Seriously, though, nothing other than ad hominem arguments?
Although the others may shift from the point to talking about your pole-ness, I will attempt to stick to some basic facts. Here are reasons why the evidence supporting a supreme being is not weak. Maybe it is not proof-perfect, but it is certainly not weak.

1) The Majority of people on earth believe in the God of Abraham in the old testiment. 3 major religions are rooted in this belief.
2) There are things on earth that still cannot be explained by modern science such as some of the Seven Wonders of the Earth. (i.e. Great Pyramid)
3) No record of creation of life in the lab. Not one single amoeba.
4) Brainsmasher didn't believe in God and he was always wrong

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