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Old 12-03-2007, 10:08 AM   #1
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Guess none of us apathetic folks watched. I didn't. Sad but true!

Oh I watched it.. it was the Guliani, Romney show for the most part. They both got just enough air time to hang themselves if you ask me.
I felt Ron Paul didn't get enough time, and they asked him some pretty loaded questions. If I had to say who 'won' that debate.. I think Huckabee did fairly well.. or at least came across that way.

Ron Paul cured me of my apathy.
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Oh I watched it.. it was the Guliani, Romney show for the most part. They both got just enough air time to hang themselves if you ask me.
I felt Ron Paul didn't get enough time, and they asked him some pretty loaded questions. If I had to say who 'won' that debate.. I think Huckabee did fairly well.. or at least came across that way.

Ron Paul cured me of my apathy.
It is good to see you get over your apathy LN. I had a visit with a man this morning and he liked RP and said that RP just lacked the charisma he needed.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:29 PM   #3
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It is good to see you get over your apathy LN. I had a visit with a man this morning and he liked RP and said that RP just lacked the charisma he needed.
Granted, the man is no "politician"
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Maybe he should hire a guru like James Carville or Dick Morris to polish his presentation... (NOT!)
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I watched the debate and I was shocked at how frivolous Romney and Guiliani are in terms of taking issues seriously. They always seem to be taking stabs at each other (or Fred) and act like a couple of high school kids cracking jokes. I don't know how anybody can take any of these candidates seriously when so much is at stake.

I was raised a Republican in a Republican home. My family was very conservative and professional. I was private schooled and college educated. I voted for Bush when I felt he was a good candidate. But I feel saddened about the state of the political system in this country. It has become so polarized and for once in my life I've actually felt alienated by both parties. I'm no longer a supporter of this "neocon" regime and spent a lot of time educating myself about the policies of Ron Paul.

One of the most important issues that I support Ron Paul is the non-interventionist foreign policy. I own a business with a partner in Ireland and have friends who live in Australia, Spain and England. I've become embarrassed of our political actions in Iraq and our "empire building" tradition. Especially when our domestic problems are mounting and our dollar is crumbling. Which is the second major reason why I'm a Paul supporter. I feel our economic situation is dire and I've actually come to an agreement with my partner in Ireland to start charging in Euros for our goods since the American dollar is so weak.

The first sign of the fall of an "empire" is the weakening of the currency. Our American empire supports over 700 military bases worldwide and costs us billions of dollars a year to maintain. Meanwhile, we are stuck borrowing from the Chinese to finance our needs.

What has our country come to?
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:39 AM   #6
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I watched the debate and I was shocked at how frivolous Romney and Guiliani are in terms of taking issues seriously. They always seem to be taking stabs at each other (or Fred) and act like a couple of high school kids cracking jokes. I don't know how anybody can take any of these candidates seriously when so much is at stake.

I was raised a Republican in a Republican home. My family was very conservative and professional. I was private schooled and college educated. I voted for Bush when I felt he was a good candidate. But I feel saddened about the state of the political system in this country. It has become so polarized and for once in my life I've actually felt alienated by both parties. I'm no longer a supporter of this "neocon" regime and spent a lot of time educating myself about the policies of Ron Paul.

One of the most important issues that I support Ron Paul is the non-interventionist foreign policy. I own a business with a partner in Ireland and have friends who live in Australia, Spain and England. I've become embarrassed of our political actions in Iraq and our "empire building" tradition. Especially when our domestic problems are mounting and our dollar is crumbling. Which is the second major reason why I'm a Paul supporter. I feel our economic situation is dire and I've actually come to an agreement with my partner in Ireland to start charging in Euros for our goods since the American dollar is so weak.

The first sign of the fall of an "empire" is the weakening of the currency. Our American empire supports over 700 military bases worldwide and costs us billions of dollars a year to maintain. Meanwhile, we are stuck borrowing from the Chinese to finance our needs.

What has our country come to?
If you are ashamed of this country and currency maybe time for you to move to the UK. They are the cut bait and run crowd and I am sure you will fit right in. This country will never fall !!! It maybe time for a culling away of those who do not support this country. By the way Bush is not running for president this time FYI It does seem that RP supporters are very aggressive with the attacks I do not see this helping Dr. Paul Oh and welcome to the board
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I don't wish to move to the UK because I'm an American....and proud of it. That is why I'm politically active.

It's too bad that many have forgotten the ideals upon which this country was founded. Our government is supposed to protect the republic and citizens' civil liberties -- not empire build.

Are you satisfied with the job our current administration is doing? I'd be interested in hearing your viewpoints?

What are your thoughts about the state of the economy and the strength of the American dollar?
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Seems to me, the economy is doing pretty well. Although certain media outlets would have you think differently, None of my friends or family is "struggling", and neither am I. Sure some people are, but that will ALWAYS be the case. All around me I see entire neighborhoods being built, and homes sold as fast as they can throw em up. Unemployment is down,(at least around here). Overall, I'd say our country is in Excellent shape. Especially when you compare America to ANY other country.
Now tell us how bad it really is......
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Seems to me, the economy is doing pretty well. Although certain media outlets would have you think differently, None of my friends or family is "struggling", and neither am I. Sure some people are, but that will ALWAYS be the case. All around me I see entire neighborhoods being built, and homes sold as fast as they can throw em up. Unemployment is down,(at least around here). Overall, I'd say our country is in Excellent shape. Especially when you compare America to ANY other country.
Now tell us how bad it really is......
Is it that bad ? I do not think so. I do believe the media would have us think the sky is falling. I will vote for RP if he gets nominated by the GOP to be there man. I still find his foreign policy disturbing.

Ron Paul won't rule out third-party run
Paul — who has set a torrid fundraising pace despite trailing in the polls — outlined many of the tenets of his presidential campaign, saying he would abolish the IRS, remove U.S. troops from bases around the world and cut off foreign aid to Israel and other Middle Eastern nations.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7539.html
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I don't wish to move to the UK because I'm an American....and proud of it. That is why I'm politically active.

It's too bad that many have forgotten the ideals upon which this country was founded. Our government is supposed to protect the republic and citizens' civil liberties -- not empire build.

Are you satisfied with the job our current administration is doing? I'd be interested in hearing your viewpoints?

What are your thoughts about the state of the economy and the strength of the American dollar?
Yes I like President Bush and think RP is not good for foreign policy. My business is doing great and I do not have to slam America to make me feel better. Currency changes all the time. You might get hurt dealing with the UK. I did not say I would never vote for him but I can not see him making it to the main election. Good luck you and your "group" have a up hill climb.

On other issues:

_Paul railed against the government's anti-drug policy, complaining that federal law overrules state laws that permit medicinal use of marijuana for pain or other symptoms of debilitating illnesses such as cancer, multiple sclerosis and other diseases. "This war on drugs is totally out of control. If you want to regulate cigarettes and alcohol and drugs, it should be at the state level," he said.

_Paul said he wants to eliminate foreign aid to Israel and other nations. "Why make Israel so dependent?" he asked. "They can't defend their borders without coming to us."

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