Internet Pornography, Harmless Fun?

[AnimeSpirit]

Lol! Is this thread still talking porn? It has like run way beyond top thread now. It's gonna be on the front page of SBLive! for a long time.

[Isaac-Saxxon]

Originally Posted by Bob

So maybe delve into this "Event Horizon" a bit for us.. A quick search find at least 7 posts from you which mention this "event horizon"

Just curious.

"event horizon" #8 is the point of no return. People have used this term to describe black holes in space. Has the moral decline of our planet reached a event horizon #9 I think so. I do know there will be a correction and it will not be by the hand of man. Just like jumping banana Anime is thrilled with this being top thread I find just the opposite it is very sad the venom and hard words have raised it to that level and that so many think that porn is good and good is bad. I am sure the forces of the dark side will be posting soon calling me names no problem. We all have choices in this life to make and I have made mine they have every right to make theirs. The Pagan Boy is still in the closet may be time for him to throw a rock instead of just taking
points away
Isaac

[AnimeSpirit]

Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon

Anime is thrilled with this being top thread

I probably wouldn't call it "thrilled." Maybe I'm just amused by the irony that it's a pornography thread that surpassed all others in reply count on SBLive!

Although, this thread really seems to have run its course and I sense a bit of tension as the topic once again eases into religious opinion. With that, I'm getting out of this thread because I really don't want to see the wounds of old flame wars reopen.

[Santabot]

It's a market such as anything else. If you are opposed to the pornographic images, don't enter the sector that they are displayed in.

But don't go hunting for pornography, hardcore or not, looking to make trouble and say that it's getting too far. If people do not like it, the producers would not make it, and obviously these things are so obscurely located that it isn't a mainstream problem and hasn't gotten out of hand so far.

[AnimeSpirit]

Originally Posted by Santabot

It's a market such as anything else. If you are opposed to the pornographic images, don't enter the sector that they are displayed in.

But don't go hunting for pornography, hardcore or not, looking to make trouble and say that it's getting too far. If people do not like it, the producers would not make it, and obviously these things are so obscurely located that it isn't a mainstream problem and hasn't gotten out of hand so far.

That's respectable. But what's your take on the overall question of this thread? Do you think it's ok for someone in a commited relationship to view porn?

[Texasbelle]

Originally Posted by Santabot

It's a market such as anything else. If you are opposed to the pornographic images, don't enter the sector that they are displayed in.

But don't go hunting for pornography, hardcore or not, looking to make trouble and say that it's getting too far. If people do not like it, the producers would not make it, and obviously these things are so obscurely located that it isn't a mainstream problem and hasn't gotten out of hand so far.

But it is a market that has corrupted society. It has caused significant problems, it exploits people often times, and does it serve any useful purpose? The only people who find it ok are those who are trying to justify it and typically have a bad habit with it.

[BrainSmashR]

Originally Posted by Texasbelle

But it is a market that has corrupted society. It has caused significant problems, it exploits people often times, and does it serve any useful purpose? The only people who find it ok are those who are trying to justify it and typically have a bad habit with it.

You mean like alcohol and tobacco?

Let me ask you a question......your husband/boyfriend/significant other cheats on you with the excuse that "I was drunk"....is that an acceptable answer or will you leave him over his actions?

In other words, do you really believe alcohol made your husband do something he wasn't already thinking about?

[AnimeSpirit]

You mean like this guy?

Larry wakes up at home with a huge hangover. He forces himself to open his eyes, and the first thing he sees is a couple of aspirins and a glass of water on the side table. He sits up and sees his clothing in front of him, all clean and pressed. Larry looks around the room and sees that it is in a perfect order, spotless, clean. So is the rest of the house. He takes the aspirins and notices a note on the table, "Honey, breakfast is on the stove, I left early to go shopping. Love you."

So he goes to the kitchen and sure enough there is a hot breakfast and the morning newspaper. His son is also at the table, eating. Larry asks, "Son, what happened last night?" His son says, "Well, you came home after 3 A.M., drunk and delirious. Broke some furniture, puked in the hallway, and gave yourself a black eye when you stumbled into the door." Confused, Larry asks, "So, why is everything in order and so clean, and breakfast is on the table waiting for me?" His son replies, "Oh that! Mom dragged you to the bedroom, and when she tried to take your pants off you said, "Leave me alone lady, I'm married."

Seriously though, I would not accept alcohol as a valid excuse for misbehavior because the person in question chose to drink in the first place. If I had a steady girl who cheated on me because of alcohol (or any other reason), my decision on whether or not to break up would depend entirely on her honesty, humility, and her level of regret. If I sense that she did not regret her mistake, then I'd break up without a second thought. Otherwise, I'd probably forgive under the condition that she quit drinking.

[Pocahontas]

Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit

You mean like this guy?



Seriously though, I would not accept alcohol as a valid excuse for misbehavior because the person in question chose to drink in the first place. If I had a steady girl who cheated on me because of alcohol (or any other reason), my decision on whether or not to break up would depend entirely on her honesty, humility, and her level of regret. If I sense that she did not regret her mistake, then I'd break up without a second thought. Otherwise, I'd probably forgive under the condition that she quit drinking.

That was a great story Anime! I feel there's NO excuse for cheating on a significant other. Why even put yourself in a position where that could happen? Mine would be out the door if he cheated and vice versa.

[Isabella]

Originally Posted by AnimeSpirit

You mean like this guy?



Seriously though, I would not accept alcohol as a valid excuse for misbehavior because the person in question chose to drink in the first place. If I had a steady girl who cheated on me because of alcohol (or any other reason), my decision on whether or not to break up would depend entirely on her honesty, humility, and her level of regret. If I sense that she did not regret her mistake, then I'd break up without a second thought. Otherwise, I'd probably forgive under the condition that she quit drinking.

Anime, you keep impressing me. You are so wise for your age. The girl who captures your heart will be one lucky girl.

[Santabot]

Originally Posted by Texasbelle

But it is a market that has corrupted society. It has caused significant problems, it exploits people often times, and does it serve any useful purpose? The only people who find it ok are those who are trying to justify it and typically have a bad habit with it.

Name these problems. The only issues I've ever experienced were those seen in obscure news cases where teachers or other administrative figures were in trouble for accidentally showing minors pornography, whether an accidental popup, or a kid snooping in their stash. Is the act illicit? Sure. If you're not used to taking showers daily and seeing a taste of your own medicine.

The body is naked always, and sexual acts are as they are displayed, they don't usually change over time, and they've been just as "illicit" or demeaning as ancient times. I believe the reasoning behind the aggressive stance on nudity and sex in America was the solid foundation from Puritanical settlers with views that sexual acts were strictly to be partaken in during marriage (a religious foundation itself) and that was their own view. Whether or not you believe in these things are your own personal opinion, but in the Treaty of Tripoly (if you're familiar with the events taken place during Andrew Jackson's presidency and that period, where slave trading was soon to be abolished worldwide): "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." Almost unanimously, the Founding Fathers upheld these statements, that religion was the closing of the eye of reason, and that would be a fallacy, the downfall of the country.

I'm not against your little religion, don't fret; I've only stated that this epidemic of pornography becoming such a widespread source of media in America, and also a large "problem" in the same location seems to discredit one side or the other. If you contest that there are so many people viewing pornography, committing illicit acts, then with the 85% of Americans that claim they believe in a Judeo-Christian deity, some of them have dissented from the original texts, or possibly it's not so wrong, even in God's terms.

People aren't having more sex, I'm not sure of your age exactly, but if you're familiar with the Baby Boomer generation, THAT was a time where more sex was taking place, not now. Recently, there has been only a sharp decline in the amount of babies being born, despite the increasing shame taken upon those who decide to abort (a woman AND a man's decision, not the Church's).

If you don't view pornography, don't. But I'm sure you don't complain about foodstuffs that you don't eat just because they're displayed in your local grocery store. You also don't enter those stores that you don't intend to purchase goods from, or are interested in; so do the same for pornography, instead of showing your ass out and making someone else's decisions for them.

[Isabella]

[Santabot]

Originally Posted by Isabella

I enjoyed reading your extensive and educated rebuttal.

[AnimeSpirit]

Use swear words sparingly, Santabot. Anywho, I can understand some of your points. Pornography is being obscured fairly well in society. The Internet is the only real problem, but we have tools for that too.

But what's your take on people who are in commited relationships viewing porn? I think if you're in a relationship, put the porn away unless you and your partner mutually agree to use it.

[Isabella]

He is too young to answer that question. My son had NetNanny until he was 18 on his computer.