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Old 05-01-2007, 09:58 PM   #31
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Let me clear up some misconceptions concerning Native Americans.

I happen to be one. I don't live on a reservation, I am not enrolled with the tribe, I recieve NO bennies of any kind. In my entire life, I have gambled away 20 bucks at a casino. I don't even waste time or cash on scratch offs, go figure. Oh, and...I don't eat cinnamin rolls. I am not alone. Many live just as I do. NO NATIVE AMERICAN IS TRAPPED ON A RESERVATION. Quite the opposite. It's increasingly difficult for tribes to keep theirm members on the reservation.

That bull**** Brain spilled out: Actually the native Americans had every opportunity to acclimate themselves to the America way. The chose to keep moving west and preserving their own inferior way of life until there wasn't any farther west to go. That's why you don't hear about major conflicts with the Indians until more than a century after the arrival of white man in the new world.


Now, as far as the monetary benefits "they better be getting"....Exactly how much of that lump sum should fall on YOU, the individual taxpayer, for a "crime" that happened more than 100 years before you were born?
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You realy ARE a fool. Many DID acclimate. They even intermarried with the settlers. Most of the ones who were "moving west" already did so every year. It's called NOMADIC you idiot. Their "inferior way of life" as you call it, was peaceful and respectful. They took care of their own, and they still do. If your fool white ass wants to belly up to the bar and drink their liquer, bet all your money in their slot machines, thats YOUR problem, but what they do with it certainly doesnt become your problem. Those monies are used to TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

I sat in a restaurant one day and watched a bus of American Indians get out, and enter the restaraunt. It was one of those buffett places. They lined up in such an interesting way. Elderly first, with young men standing beside them. Then children, then women. The young men assisted their elderly throughout their meals. The women assisted the children while they themselves ate. When did the young men eat? Not until the elderly were done.

Yah. Those barbarians!
That's their personal choice. If I want to go in a restaurant and eat off the floor, it doesn't mean my entire race are ****ing dogs.
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:59 PM   #32
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Let me clear up some misconceptions concerning Native Americans.

I happen to be one. I don't live on a reservation, I am not enrolled with the tribe, I recieve NO bennies of any kind. In my entire life, I have gambled away 20 bucks at a casino. I don't even waste time or cash on scratch offs, go figure. Oh, and...I don't eat cinnamin rolls. I am not alone. Many live just as I do. NO NATIVE AMERICAN IS TRAPPED ON A RESERVATION. Quite the opposite. It's increasingly difficult for tribes to keep theirm members on the reservation.

That bull**** Brain spilled out: Actually the native Americans had every opportunity to acclimate themselves to the America way. The chose to keep moving west and preserving their own inferior way of life until there wasn't any farther west to go. That's why you don't hear about major conflicts with the Indians until more than a century after the arrival of white man in the new world.


Now, as far as the monetary benefits "they better be getting"....Exactly how much of that lump sum should fall on YOU, the individual taxpayer, for a "crime" that happened more than 100 years before you were born?
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You realy ARE a fool. Many DID acclimate. They even intermarried with the settlers. Most of the ones who were "moving west" already did so every year. It's called NOMADIC you idiot. Their "inferior way of life" as you call it, was peaceful and respectful. They took care of their own, and they still do. If your fool white ass wants to belly up to the bar and drink their liquer, bet all your money in their slot machines, thats YOUR problem, but what they do with it certainly doesnt become your problem. Those monies are used to TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

I sat in a restaurant one day and watched a bus of American Indians get out, and enter the restaraunt. It was one of those buffett places. They lined up in such an interesting way. Elderly first, with young men standing beside them. Then children, then women. The young men assisted their elderly throughout their meals. The women assisted the children while they themselves ate. When did the young men eat? Not until the elderly were done.

Yah. Those barbarians!
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:30 PM   #34
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That's their personal choice. If I want to go in a restaurant and eat off the floor, it doesn't mean my entire race are ****ing dogs.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:39 PM   #35
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If a whole tribe of santabrats ate off the floor, I'd say it WOULD make him and his people uncivilized.

But I already had him pegged as such.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:44 PM   #36
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If a whole tribe of santabrats ate off the floor, I'd say it WOULD make him and his people uncivilized.

But I already had him pegged as such.
Where have I singled out a single person on this board to mock, call names, act an ass to for their namesake only, etc?

Show me, where these lovely religious-types continue to persecute others.. the tides have turned.
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Where have I singled out a single person on this board to mock, call names, act an ass to for their namesake only, etc?

Show me, where these lovely religious-types continue to persecute others.. the tides have turned.
Ummm...your entire post in which you spouted off inacurate information regarding Native Americans, for starters.

I'm not religious. I'm spiritual. Why don't you and Brain get together and do some research on the TRUE Native American ways.

Few tips to get you started. Many of them lived in houses. Tepees were for the nomadic tribes only. And...the Cheroke have the honor of having one of the OLDEST school systems in history.
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Old Soul, I'm not surprised that you've chosen not to avail yourself of the benefits to which you're entitled. The Indians had a symbiotic relationship with nature, they wasted nothing. They're a wonderful culture, and they were screwed out of their land. I for one have absolutely NO PROBLEM with Indians receiving compensation in the form of benefits they deserve.
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Old Soul, I'm not surprised that you've chosen not to avail yourself of the benefits to which you're entitled. The Indians had a symbiotic relationship with nature, they wasted nothing. They're a wonderful culture, and they were screwed out of their land. I for one have absolutely NO PROBLEM with Indians receiving compensation in the form of benefits they deserve.
One of the ineteresting things I love about them is that they understood their need for meat, and yet had such a deep love for all life that it left them with a sense of sorrow after a hunt. It's why they honor their prey. And they didn't kill more than they could eat. No over foresting, no over fishing...

In many native familes who are not enrolled with tribes, who live amongst white men as fellow white men, would NEVER sit back and allow the government to take care of their own. Not any that I know of, any way.
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One of the ineteresting things I love about them is that they understood their need for meat, and yet had such a deep love for all life that it left them with a sense of sorrow after a hunt. It's why they honor their prey. And they didn't kill more than they could eat. No over foresting, no over fishing...

In many native familes who are not enrolled with tribes, who live amongst white men as fellow white men, would NEVER sit back and allow the government to take care of their own. Not any that I know of, any way.
I understand. Indians are a proud people who carry their own weight. But the way I see it, the benefits are compensation, not charity...and they (the benefits) dont go far enough!
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I understand. Indians are a proud people who carry their own weight. But the way I see it, the benefits are compensation, not charity.
Those who have been displaced are already dead, this new generation needs no compensation, because since Old Soul speaks for his entire race, he says there is no need for the charity dollar, so let's just cut off their funds entirely. Good plan.
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Well that wild Irish man I am married to just peeked in at me and scowled that I am on my computer. Said he's waiting for his squaw. I'll have to carry on this debate tommoro. Can't wait to see what bull**** Brain digs up in his "research". LOL.
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Those who have been displaced are already dead, this new generation needs no compensation, because since Old Soul speaks for his entire race, he says there is no need for the charity dollar, so let's just cut off their funds entirely. Good plan.
They will thrive just fine without your taxes Santabrat. My guess is you prolly qualify for unearned income anyway, and you don't pay any real taxes. It's been my experience that the ones who whine the loudest, actualy pay the least, and have been at some time, a feeder off the rest of us.

I pay a chitload in taxes, so I think it fair that I can tell you to shut up.
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Old 05-01-2007, 11:14 PM   #45
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Those who have been displaced are already dead, this new generation needs no compensation, because since Old Soul speaks for his entire race, he says there is no need for the charity dollar, so let's just cut off their funds entirely. Good plan.
I agree! People today who reap the benefits of the freedom our ancestors died for don't need it either because the people who won it for us are already dead! Let's go to war with Great Brittain again for THIS generation! ::extreme sarcasm::

Seriously though, I really don't agree with that Santabot.
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