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Old 04-24-2007, 03:31 PM   #1
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Post Kids Are Better Behaved And Adjusted With Religious Parents

Kids with religious parents are better behaved and adjusted than other children, according to a new study that is the first to look at the effects of religion on young child development.

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Old 04-24-2007, 07:42 PM   #2
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Oh boy, I just know this thread is gonna go someplace warm. Here's my take though. Regardless of your personal beliefs, any philosophies that encourage good conduct in a child would surely have a positive impact on the child.
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Old 04-24-2007, 07:55 PM   #3
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Oh boy, I just know this thread is gonna go someplace warm. Here's my take though. Regardless of your personal beliefs, any philosophies that encourage good conduct in a child would surely have a positive impact on the child.
Warm might be too mild?!? Hot as Hades could be more appropriate

My experience in dealing with so many families as a teacher tells me that the families who have focus tend to instill that focus in their children. If the focus is faith or family time or educational things, it works. Doesn't it just make sense, then, that families who spend time focused on religious growth would grow in truth and trust and Godly principals?

On the opposite side of the coin, families with no focus have nothing to pass on. And believe me, there are those who are just floating and reacting to circumstances, waiting to be handed life!

This would be a good place to interject that age old addage, you reap what you sow. So, Anime, I agree that any philosophies that encourage good conduct in a child would surely have a positive impact on the child. It's just that religious families channel their energy into that more, and the results show in the studies.
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Great posts to the both of you and I agree wholeheartedly!!!
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:28 PM   #5
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Warm might be too mild?!? Hot as Hades could be more appropriate

My experience in dealing with so many families as a teacher tells me that the families who have focus tend to instill that focus in their children. If the focus is faith or family time or educational things, it works. Doesn't it just make sense, then, that families who spend time focused on religious growth would grow in truth and trust and Godly principals?

On the opposite side of the coin, families with no focus have nothing to pass on. And believe me, there are those who are just floating and reacting to circumstances, waiting to be handed life!

This would be a good place to interject that age old addage, you reap what you sow. So, Anime, I agree that any philosophies that encourage good conduct in a child would surely have a positive impact on the child. It's just that religious families channel their energy into that more, and the results show in the studies.
While I like the objective stance you've taken on religion vs. doing anything constructive with your children, I feel I must point out that if the survey was conducted on an accurate scale of the American population, then it was nearly 90% Christian and is therefore expected to lean in that direction.

Simply put, while the results are accurate, they are also misleading because of a demographically accurate rather than a balanced survey group consisting of equal members of various religious and non-religious beliefs.
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Oh boy, I just know this thread is gonna go someplace warm. Here's my take though. Regardless of your personal beliefs, any philosophies that encourage good conduct in a child would surely have a positive impact on the child.
Anime, you are one fine young man! Sheba, I agree with your post, too.
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While I like the objective stance you've taken on religion vs. doing anything constructive with your children, I feel I must point out that if the survey was conducted on an accurate scale of the American population, then it was nearly 90% Christian and is therefore expected to lean in that direction.
Nice try, but unless we get hard data from such a survey, saying that is merely speculation.
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Nice try, but unless we get hard data from such a survey, saying that is merely speculation.
Hear, hear for Anime Sheba you are a very wise woman and command much respect. Most of us know it was to be this way right before the second advent and Satan and his minions are loose and doing their dirty work because they know their time is short. I know for a first hand fact that having Christ as the head of our house has turned out three very good kids with good morals and grades and as much as the few on this board might think they know if you have not raised children you will never know so try another thread where you can google your info. First hand parenting is just that and google will not help you here.
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Old 04-25-2007, 05:33 AM   #9
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While I like the objective stance you've taken on religion vs. doing anything constructive with your children, I feel I must point out that if the survey was conducted on an accurate scale of the American population, then it was nearly 90% Christian and is therefore expected to lean in that direction.

Simply put, while the results are accurate, they are also misleading because of a demographically accurate rather than a balanced survey group consisting of equal members of various religious and non-religious beliefs.
I reread the original info. It says "study conducted re: affects of religion." As I am sure you are aware, BS, a true study is more than a survey - it involves tests over time and must follow a true research format. I give it more credit than the limited survey your describing.

Not everything that comes out on the positive side for religion is slanted. Good produces good in our kids!! That will be nice to know when you're in your 80's and you don't give your grandson money for a video game. Perhaps the good things you've planted will surface and you'll survive instead of spending five days on the floor just waiting for life to leave your body.

Again, we reap what we sow! Truth doesn't need a survey.
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I reread the original info. It says "study conducted re: affects of religion." As I am sure you are aware, BS, a true study is more than a survey - it involves tests over time and must follow a true research format. I give it more credit than the limited survey your describing.

Not everything that comes out on the positive side for religion is slanted. Good produces good in our kids!! That will be nice to know when you're in your 80's and you don't give your grandson money for a video game. Perhaps the good things you've planted will surface and you'll survive instead of spending five days on the floor just waiting for life to leave your body.

Again, we reap what we sow! Truth doesn't need a survey.
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:51 AM   #11
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I reread the original info. It says "study conducted re: affects of religion." As I am sure you are aware, BS, a true study is more than a survey - it involves tests over time and must follow a true research format. I give it more credit than the limited survey your describing.

Not everything that comes out on the positive side for religion is slanted. Good produces good in our kids!! That will be nice to know when you're in your 80's and you don't give your grandson money for a video game. Perhaps the good things you've planted will surface and you'll survive instead of spending five days on the floor just waiting for life to leave your body.

Again, we reap what we sow! Truth doesn't need a survey.
You're confusing the authors words with what actually took place. This wasn't a "study" that took place over years and years under the careful scrutiny of several sdcientists. The second paragraph clearly states John Bartkowski, a Mississippi State University sociologist and his colleagues asked the parents and teachers of more than 16,000 kids.....

No, this was 1 man and his colleges at 1 university asking questions of a very specific audience consisting of 90% christian....and that's assuming he actually attempted to get an accurate sample population.

Now no one is doubting the results of the survey or the implications. We all know spending quality time with your children is important regardless of the activities in which you partake.....that's not rocket science. I'm merely stating that if you survey a group of 90% christians your results will reflect christians beliefs 100% of the time. To imply anything else is sheer stupidity.

Do you understand what I'm saying? In China the majority of the good kids are not christian. In Egypt, the majority of the good kids are not christian. In India, the majority of the good kids are not christians because christanity isn't what makes those people good parents, but being good parents IS what makes their children well behaved.

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You're confusing the authors words with what actually took place. This wasn't a "study" that took place over years and years under the careful scrutiny of several scientists. The second paragraph clearly states John Bartkowski, a Mississippi State University sociologist and his colleagues asked the parents and teachers of more than 16,000 kids.....

No, this was 1 man and his colleges at 1 university asking questions of a very specific audience consisting of 90% christian....and that's assuming he actually attempted to get an accurate sample population.

Now no one is doubting the results of the survey or the implications. We all know spending quality time with your children is important regardless of the activities in which you partake.....that's not rocket science. I'm merely stating that if you survey a group of 90% Christians your results will reflect Christians beliefs 100% of the time. To imply anything else is sheer stupidity.

Do you understand what I'm saying? In China the majority of the good kids are not Christian. In Egypt, the majority of the good kids are not Christian. In India, the majority of the good kids are not Christians because Christianity isn't what makes those people good parents, but being good parents IS what makes their children well behaved.
LOL devil child Your stupid ass does not have clue as to how many real Christians there are all over this world. You look out your little piss hole of window on life and all you can see is a cup that is half empty. I feel sure that even the swine would not want your evil spirit near them. I know your kind and it has nothing to do with what it is you believe but everything with attacking Christians. What we did before has everything with what we do now ! Do you any concepts of the Abyss ? Well you will soon Ababdon
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LOL devil child Your stupid ass does not have clue as to how many real Christians there are all over this world. You look out your little piss hole of window on life and all you can see is a cup that is half empty. I feel sure that even the swine would not want your evil spirit near them. I know your kind and it has nothing to do with what it is you believe but everything with attacking Christians. What we did before has everything with what we do now ! Do you any concepts of the Abyss ? Well you will soon Ababdon

I know there are 2 billion who claim to be christian....like you.

but when zealots like you start discriminating against snake handlers, Pentecostals, and Mormons then the numbers start to drop significantly.

Simply put, I'm glad dumbass people like you are a minority globally, as well as locally.
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I know there are 2 billion who claim to be christian....like you.

but when zealots like you start discriminating against snake handlers, Pentecostals, and Mormons then the numbers start to drop significantly.

Simply put, I'm glad dumb ass people like you are a minority globally, as well as locally.
I am not the judge of who is Christian or not and neither are you Son of Perdition ! I am glad that dumb ass people like you will not be around for a eternity. You will either have a conversion or your go into Perdition
(to perish) no more trouble makers like you around Morning Star
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I need the article you are speaking of, BS

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Kids with religious parents are better behaved and adjusted than other children, according to a new study that is the first to look at the effects of religion on young child development.
I am not finding a link to the article you have. I am also not finding religious to necessarily be equated with Christian. I would love to read the entire article so as not to make assumptions. In response to the above quote, the children could be religious Chinese children & parents, Egyptian, etc. I do see your point, and I don't want to respond to information that is out of context.

I believe that people who believe in a higher good - have some sort of religious belief - move toward that good. I also believe that religious beliefs make one a better parent.
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