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01-10-2008, 08:38 AM | #1 |
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Discussions like the one in this thread (not just the spelling/grammar) are the reason people won't vote for Ron Paul:
>He's the only man they dont own >do whatever ya can to take your country back from the oligarchs >Its all goin down the schitter and you people are too phuckin brainwashed to realize it. Normal people read stuff like this and are turned off by a candidate that is so fervently supported by nutjobs. |
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uh oh, sounds as if RP's republic doesn't include blacks, jews, gays, or people with AIDS.
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...the newsletters I saw all had one thing in common: They were published under a banner containing Paul's name, and the articles (except for one special edition of a newsletter that contained the byline of another writer) seem designed to create the impression that they were written by him--and reflected his views. What they reveal are decades worth of obsession with conspiracies, sympathy for the right-wing militia movement, and deeply held bigotry against blacks, Jews, and gays. In short, they suggest that Ron Paul is not the plain-speaking antiwar activist his supporters believe they are backing--but rather a member in good standing of some of the oldest and ugliest traditions in American politics.
Source: http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.ht...5-4532a7da84ca
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one more because this is a definition of libertarian I have not heard before
The people surrounding the von Mises Institute--including Paul--may describe themselves as libertarians, but they are nothing like the urbane libertarians who staff the Cato Institute or the libertines at Reason magazine. Instead, they represent a strain of right-wing libertarianism that views the Civil War as a catastrophic turning point in American history--the moment when a tyrannical federal government established its supremacy over the states. As one prominent Washington libertarian told me, "There are too many libertarians in this country ... who, because they are attracted to the great books of Mises, ... find their way to the Mises Institute and then are told that a defense of the Confederacy is part of libertarian thought."
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ok last one-new RP slogan: bring back the closet!
Like blacks, gays earn plenty of animus in Paul's newsletters. They frequently quoted Paul's "old colleague," Representative William Dannemeyer--who advocated quarantining people with AIDS--praising him for "speak[ing] out fearlessly despite the organized power of the gay lobby." In 1990, one newsletter mentioned a reporter from a gay magazine "who certainly had an axe to grind, and that's not easy with a limp wrist." In an item titled, "The Pink House?" the author of a newsletter--again, presumably Paul--complained about President George H.W. Bush's decision to sign a hate crimes bill and invite "the heads of homosexual lobbying groups to the White House for the ceremony," adding, "I miss the closet." "Homosexuals," it said, "not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities." When Marvin Liebman, a founder of the conservative Young Americans for Freedom and a longtime political activist, announced that he was gay in the pages of National Review, a Paul newsletter implored, "Bring Back the Closet!" Surprisingly, one item expressed ambivalence about the contentious issue of gays in the military, but ultimately concluded, "Homosexuals, if admitted, should be put in a special category and not allowed in close physical contact with heterosexuals."
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you don't need to go to snopes. Turn on CNN. I think he may be able to get out of it. There were no bylines on the articles. It flies with me, but the rainbow coalition may have other ideas.
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Wrong, wrong wrong. Weak-minded fools who're susceptable to propaganda and love the taste of bullschit, like yourself for example, are turned off by it. Obviously ya cant see past the spellin, as I've stated many times before that I try to spell the way I speak, and to get around the built-in censorship in this forum, but ya already knew that. "Normal people"? Ya mean like you? Dont make me laugh. I got news for ya Joe, nitpickin, snivelin, anal crybabies aint the norm, except maybe at your house.
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I guess I'm in the minority. That explains Ron Paul's runaway popularity and virtual lock on the white house.
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Ron Paul just resurrected his campaign Larry Fester
Published 01/10/2008 - 6:11 p.m. EST Analysis-In the midst of an emerging controversy that would have crumbled a lesser candidate, Ron Paul just defended himself against allegations of racism that left Wolf Blitzer of CNN’s situation room stuttering. A recent New Republic hit piece on Ron Paul brought up racist writings that were written under the Ron Paul newsletter. The letters had been public for over 15 years and Paul had denied writing those years ago. When questioned on the letters by Blitzer, Paul said that he had not paid attention to the newsletter that was written in his name and that he didn’t know who wrote them. Paul said that he had taken moral responsibility for not paying more attention to what went out in his name. Paul then eloquently addressed the issue of racism and demonstrated that the collectivist concept of racism was entirely contrary to the Libertarian ideal of individual liberty. Paul also said that his ideology did not see people in groups but instead viewed everyone as an important individual. Paul also said that the attacks and allegations against him were because his campaign is growing and gaining traction among black voters. Paul leads all Republicans among blacks. Paul then said that he is the only candidate running that would pardon all blacks and whites convicted of non violent drug crimes and that the racism is in the judicial system. He said that he honored Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King Jr. for their acts of non violent Civil Disobedience which he said was a Libertarian concept. Paul also pointed out that his grassroots supporters have planned a mass donation day scheduled on Martin Luther King Jr’s holiday to honor Dr. King and Dr Paul. Paul’s supporters consider him the first Civil Rights leader of the 21st Century for his tireless defense of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Paul voted against the Patriot Act and has made the defense of Civil Liberties a cornerstone of his political career. Paul’s political campaign is clearly uniting people from all backgrounds. Time will tell, but I do believe that the Wolf Blitzer interview is the turning point of the campaign. If Fox News attempts to sand bag Paul on the issue during tonight’s debate it will backfire and he will win the debate easily. Related article: Ron Paul to be honored as America’s Civil Rights leader
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Ron Paul to be honored as America’s Civil Rights leader Larry Fester
Published 01/09/2008 - 7:30 p.m. EST Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul is to be honored by grassroots activists as the first Civil Rights leader of the 21st Century. FreeAtLast2008.com - Ron Paul For President is a new website designed to generate a 10 million dollar plus cash infusion for Paul’s campaign along with nationwide marches to honor Dr. Paul and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Many of Ron Paul’s supporters consider him the first Civil Rights leader of the 21st Century for his tireless defense of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Paul voted against the Patriot Act and has made the defense of liberty a central theme in his campaign. Organizers of the mass donation day have successfully broke records in the past on November 5th with 4.2 million, and on December 16th with a historic 6 plus million dollar day to commemorate the Boston Tea Party. Unique to this money bomb is that it isn’t designed to protest anything; instead, it is designed to honor both Dr. Paul and Dr. King as Civil Rights leaders. It is a sign of the transcendent nature of Paul’s message of peace, freedom, and prosperity. Paul's website says regarding racism: “The collectivist mindset is at the heart of racism. Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups.” Paul has raised more money in the 4rth quarter than his opponents yet has not been able to break through the 10% barrier in the first couple contests of the GOP nomination process. This is largely because of a corporate media blackout. As it stands now, the two frontrunners Mike Huckabee and John McCain are not financially viable to compete on Super Tuesday without millions of dollars of free media to propel them. Mitt Romney can continue to self finance his campaign if desired. Paul, already financed through Super Tuesday, which is February 5th, may find himself with another windfall in a couple weeks
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He's one of the greatest men to have ever had absolutely no chance of ever becoming President of the United states.
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I cannot stand Wolf Blitzer. The first time I saw him sniveling under a table in Hotel Baghdad I knew I didn't like him. I don't care much for Anderson Cooper either. Sensationalist yellow journalism bastages.
Ron Paul went up a few notches in my estimation if he shut wolf up. However, I still worry he's too old for the job.
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Did Ron Paul Supporters Cross the Line?
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The town clerk of Sutton, New Hampshire incurred the wrath of Ron Paul supporters following last week's primary election. Jennifer Call tells the Concord Monitor she somehow ended up recording that Paul received no votes in her town out of the 920 cast. But by the next morning the mistake had been fixed, and Paul received credit for 31 votes. Call says over the next few hours she received about 40 calls from Paul supporters. Some falsely claimed they were media looking into a story about voter fraud. Others yelled she had committed treason. One said she should be shot. She also received enough calls at home that she locked her doors, unhooked her answering machine and requested an unlisted number. Of her experience with Paul supporters, Call says — "most of these people are not rational." http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,322705,00.html
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