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Texasbelle 06-12-2007 06:34 AM

9 y/o killed on Highway
 
I drove past this accident yesterday within minutes of this child getting hit by a car. I found out when I got home that the boy had died which is very sad to me as a parent. My heart goes out to this family.

The accident happened on North Market just north of the split with Hwy 71. There are two low income apartment complexes there and a neighborhood with lower income people in it as well I assume. My problem is this...I get up this morning, read the newspaper, and find that because this child and another in September were killed trying to cross A FIVE LANE HIGHWAY that Calvin Lester and the black community are in outrage that the speed limit of 50 on the highway hasn't been changed, nothing is being done for these people, etc. My thoughts go more like this.. Why haven't you people stopped crossing a five lane highway? Where are the parents of these children? Why is everything that happens to these people somebody else's fault? When do they begin to take responsibility for their lives and actions? The poor man that hit the child and could not avoid the accident will probably have Morris Bart calling any day now. Uggghhh these people irritate the snot out of me when they act like this.:nono:

joepole 06-12-2007 08:51 AM

You can't say "you people," it's racist. Report to your nearest re-education/tolerance center.

piemaker720 06-12-2007 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle
I drove past this accident yesterday within minutes of this child getting hit by a car. I found out when I got home that the boy had died which is very sad to me as a parent. My heart goes out to this family.

The accident happened on North Market just north of the split with Hwy 71. There are two low income apartment complexes there and a neighborhood with lower income people in it as well I assume. My problem is this...I get up this morning, read the newspaper, and find that because this child and another in September were killed trying to cross A FIVE LANE HIGHWAY that Calvin Lester and the black community are in outrage that the speed limit of 50 on the highway hasn't been changed, nothing is being done for these people, etc. My thoughts go more like this.. Why haven't you people stopped crossing a five lane highway? Where are the parents of these children? Why is everything that happens to these people somebody else's fault? When do they begin to take responsibility for their lives and actions? The poor man that hit the child and could not avoid the accident will probably have Morris Bart calling any day now. Uggghhh these people irritate the snot out of me when they act like this.:nono:


I do agree Belle, for some reason , people tend not to take responsiblity for their own actions. If you have to cross that 5 lane highway why is there not a cross walk there. What is on the other side of that road. Again why were the parents lettig these children play near this highway. The man that hit this child will have to live with this for a long time just as the boy's family will for losing him. I don't know who Calvin Lester is and he can be outraged all he wants, but the change needs to start with the parents keeping a closer eye on the children. If they need to cross the highway walk them over. But I'll tell you I have seen people crossing highways just step out into traffic, it's like stop or hit me. I have went down roads where kids would be playing in the street, and would not move to let the cars pass. This is taught to these children. Like I said the problem is the PARENTS, make the change.

AnimeSpirit 06-12-2007 09:20 AM

I agree with TBelle. Parents need to watch their kids and adults need to remember how to cross the street properly. If they reduce the speed limit on that highway, guess what will happen....TRAFFIC JAMS!!! Try getting across the street then.

Texasbelle 06-12-2007 10:24 AM

This is a HIGHWAY where this incident happened. It's not just a road, it is a major highway (Hwy 1). Nobody should really be trying to cross the road here. It's just asking for an accident like this to happen. I travel this road about 3 times a week going to my trainer and also happened to live about an 1/8 mile from where this accident happened when I was in High School. These kids and people are trying to get to a convenience store located across the highway from the neighborhood and one of the apartment complexes. To me, they are all playing Russian roulette if they try to cross it. The only solution would be one of those over the highway crossings but why should this have to be done because people can't use common sense?

AnimeSpirit 06-12-2007 10:33 AM

I've seen such overpasses for on-foot traffic. They actually aren't a bad idea. However, I can't imagine the city government placing one for merely convenience store traffic. If there were a large shopping center across the street from a major housing area, then maybe, but not for a mere convenience store. It's a question of how much traffic crosses that road.

joepole 06-12-2007 10:57 AM

I wasn't even allowed to cross Line Ave. when I was 9 years old, and I lived on a cross street that had a traffic light and sidewalks!

rhertz 06-12-2007 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole
I wasn't even allowed to cross Line Ave. when I was 9 years old, and I lived on a cross street that had a traffic light and sidewalks!

This is a true story. I grew up near you, and I wasn't allowed to cross my street either. In my back yard was a bayou, and there was 4 or 5 foot culvert that ran under my back yard, front yard, Gilbert, and into my across-the-street neighbors side yard.

It was a long tunnel with a slight bend so you could not see the other side from one end. But in the middle, we could see the light at both ends of the tunnel. The older kids traversed the tunnel without a sweat. I only made it a few times, it was a pretty scary trip to make at 7 or 8 years old. My parents eventually found out and put a quick stop to that!

Pocahontas 06-12-2007 03:42 PM

Growing up in a small town was so awesome! We road our Honda mini bikes all over the place up to the edge of the highway...stopped parked them, walked across the highway and then road motorcyles back home! We stayed out til dark and ran all over the neighborhoods til my mother "rang the bell" (I kid you not) to come in. We had this big old dinner bell that originally belonged to my great grandmother and we could hear it a mile away! I'm not a hick either....just a small town girl!:D I loved it!:heart:

rhertz 06-12-2007 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocahontas
Growing up in a small town was so awesome! We road our Honda mini bikes all over the place up to the edge of the highway...stopped parked them, walked across the highway and then road motorcyles back home! We stayed out til dark and ran all over the neighborhoods til my mother "rang the bell" (I kid you not) to come in. We had this big old dinner bell that originally belonged to my great grandmother and we could hear it a mile away! I'm not a hick either....just a small town girl!:D I loved it!:heart:

LOL, as I grew older, we had Honda mini-trail 50's and 70's and bigger and bigger dirt bikes as time went on. By the time I was 12 or 13, I was riding wheelies down the street! It's a wonder I made it. Yes once I actually got hit by a car while I was on my dirt bike. No broken bones but lots of scrapes and bruises. Shreveport was not quite the small town I thought it was. :D

But those were different times back then. I remember riding to high school with my shotgun in the rear window of my pickup! Lot of us did. And then we went to gun club at school as an extracurricular activity after school. Nobody got hurt and nobody got arrested. Nowadays there seems to be a lot more of both. There is something to be said for learning some personal responsibility and common sense the hard way (as long as you survive to remember the lesson)

piemaker720 06-12-2007 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocahontas
Growing up in a small town was so awesome! We road our Honda mini bikes all over the place up to the edge of the highway...stopped parked them, walked across the highway and then road motorcyles back home! We stayed out til dark and ran all over the neighborhoods til my mother "rang the bell" (I kid you not) to come in. We had this big old dinner bell that originally belonged to my great grandmother and we could hear it a mile away! I'm not a hick either....just a small town girl!:D I loved it!:heart:

I too came from a small town. We had a hiil behind our house that when it iced in the winter, instead of salting the roadway the mayor would have the town block the road on both ends so the kids could slid down. They used everything from baking pans to cardboard. It was nice because they thought of the kids. I have seen the kids in the winter take water out and pour on the road to freeze up. They were desperate, we don't get much snow here in Louisiana.

joepole 06-12-2007 04:00 PM

There is a drainage tunnel that runs all the way from behind Azalea Cleaners (by Pierremont Mall) under Line Avenue and under South Highlands Elementary all the way to Erie@Thornhill, where you can crawl through a small (18-inch-ish) pipe to emerge out of those rectangular drains. It's amazing we lived to adulthood.

Pocahontas 06-12-2007 10:44 PM

Now that's scary! I wonder who discovered that!? Surely one journey through was enough to last a lifetime. I can't imagine any repeat runs through there! Ooh gives me the creeps thinking about crawling through small enclosed underground spaces!:eek:

Isaac-Saxxon 06-13-2007 05:45 AM

How about a trip down Thrill Hill ? It is like Mt. Everest for this area. I know Joe and Rhertz have made that thrilling run. :eek:

Leadbelly 06-13-2007 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon
How about a trip down Thrill Hill ? It is like Mt. Everest for this area. I know Joe and Rhertz have made that thrilling run. :eek:


It's a blast! I ride My bike down that sucker all the time and hit about 35 MPH
The ride back up is a blast as well, the old heart hits about 172 most of the time. Makes it that much stronger. About five times in a row is enough.

:peace:

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joepole 06-13-2007 08:26 AM

I grew up about 4-5 blocks from that hill and a couple years it actually snowed enough to sled down it.

AnimeSpirit 06-13-2007 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by joepole
I grew up about 4-5 blocks from that hill and a couple years it actually snowed enough to sled down it.

It's funny you say that. I grew up in Jonesboro where the road across our back yard was steep enough to sled on. When it iced over, people would come from all adjacent neighborhoods to sled down the hill. Talk about fun! :D The mayor would actually order traffic shut down there for the sledding because it wasn't at all a major road.

Then old Mayor Zuber died and they elected some jerk who wasn't aware of this event and he started putting sand on this road when it iced over. No wonder politicians get assassinated.

joepole 06-13-2007 09:02 AM

My house now is on top of a giant hill. If we ever get snow I'm going to have to have every kid within a mile radius on my front lawn.

joepole 06-13-2007 09:09 AM

My hill:

http://www.shreveport.com/forums/pho...ffa52677a1.jpg

piemaker720 06-13-2007 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by joepole
My house now is on top of a giant hill. If we ever get snow I'm going to have to have every kid within a mile radius on my front lawn.

This is very unlike you Joe, but I knew there was another side of you. Very nice and very nice hill at your house. Kids would love sledding there.:clap:

Texasbelle 06-13-2007 11:00 AM

Just think about it like this Joe: If there is snow this winter, all of US will meet at your house for sledding!! A little SBLive party at the Pole house! I wonder who can make it down that hill the fastest???????????

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AnimeSpirit 06-13-2007 12:40 PM

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I wonder who can make it down that hill the fastest???????????

I'm putting my money on Snowman. :D

Texasbelle 06-13-2007 02:49 PM

That is a very good prediction Anime! The more you weigh, the faster you go down that hill, correct???????????

Isaac-Saxxon 06-13-2007 08:20 PM

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That is a very good prediction Anime! The more you weigh, the faster you go down that hill, correct???????????

That is so right Tbelle :D only you might end up with two black eyes as your gardens come undone :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Texasbelle queen of the Snow Hill. ;)

Snow Man 06-13-2007 08:55 PM

Hey buddy get your hands off my old lady :mad: You know what happens when you roll Snow Man down the hill. The snow balls get very big and that is why the Snow Girls think he is cold blooded.:cool: I must get back to the freezer this LA weather is kicking my ice hole. :cool:

rhertz 06-13-2007 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole
There is a drainage tunnel that runs all the way from behind Azalea Cleaners (by Pierremont Mall) under Line Avenue and under South Highlands Elementary all the way to Erie@Thornhill, where you can crawl through a small (18-inch-ish) pipe to emerge out of those rectangular drains. It's amazing we lived to adulthood.

LOL, I did not know that particular route. But I agree it's amazing we lived to adulthood. I have lots of stories but I don't want to appear to be too stupid all at once. :D But there was that time I plugged a DC slot car motor into our AC wall outlet. And that Cherry bomb in the neighbors mailbox with a time delay fuse (a cigarette burning to the fuse stuck in one end) And the flaming tennis balls soaked in gasoline. And the bottle rocket wars.... Oh did I mention wheelies!!

There was one neighbor named Peter Davis (who passed away I believe) whose father was a vet in the 60's and they had a baby chimp who would get on the back of Peter's Honda SL100 and they would ride wheelies up and town Dillingham. They even made the newpaper with picture!

LOL, today PETA would be on the scene with a lawsuit for endangering chimps with cruel and unusual punishment. But I swear that ape loved it! :D

rhertz 06-13-2007 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Leadbelly
It's a blast! I ride My bike down that sucker all the time and hit about 35 MPH
The ride back up is a blast as well, the old heart hits about 172 most of the time. Makes it that much stronger. About five times in a row is enough.

:peace:

LOL, I remember going down thrill hill on my 10 speed in the mid 70's and it freaked me out. I really thought I was going to die! But I made it! whew! Never again.......

Isaac-Saxxon 06-13-2007 09:00 PM

Hey rhertz did you have any brakes on your bike back then or did you just drag your toes ?

Texasbelle 06-13-2007 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Snow Man
Hey buddy get your hands off my old lady :mad: You know what happens when you roll Snow Man down the hill. The snow balls get very big and that is why the Snow Girls think he is cold blooded.:cool: I must get back to the freezer this LA weather is kicking my ice hole. :cool:

LMAO you are too funny Snowman!

Isaac-Saxxon 06-13-2007 09:06 PM

Hey that Snow Man is one cool dude :cool: Hope to see him post again when the winter comes around. Tbelle you looked great in that snow suit :D

Texasbelle 06-13-2007 09:12 PM

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Isaac, you have your pictures mixed up. That is Rhertz's old girlfriend. Here's my picture::D

LateNight 06-13-2007 09:57 PM

Driver recalls fatal accident
 
Was reading this article on KTBS Driver recalls fatal accident

the driver was not charged for the accident.

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He said he was driving his pickup south at about 45 mph. The speed limit is 50 mph. The boy ran from the northbound shoulder of the highway toward two boys who had stopped in the center of the five-lane highway. Small said B.J. paused for a second when he reached the boys but kept running.
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In October, city officials asked for a study to see if the speed limit could be lowered to 45 mph. The state highway department concluded it wasn't a good idea but recommended that police increase enforcement of the 50-mph limit.

"Speed studies determine what drivers feel are safe and comfortable speeds for area roads," said John Sanders, the department's district administrator. "And that particular study determined that 85 percent of the drivers perceived 50 mph is safe."

The study also found that 85 percent of northbound vehicles traveled at or below 62 miles an hour, while 85 percent of southbound traffic moved at 57 miles an hour.

Granted the poor kid shouldn't have running into the street etc.. but I drive by this section everyday.. I guarandamnteeya.. ain't nobody doing less than 60mph.. and cars blaze past me there going faster than that.. and the danger is this is that section headed north, where on north market/71 you can veer left and get onto hwy 1 north..
its like a big S curve.. and when you come out of that curve.. there's almost ALWAYS someone trying to cross the street there.. it occurrs to me everyday, that I'm surprised there aren't more accidents there. Kids play along the street there all the time, and people walking along the edge of the highway all the time.

Pocahontas 06-13-2007 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rhertz
LOL, I did not know that particular route. But I agree it's amazing we lived to adulthood. I have lots of stories but I don't want to appear to be too stupid all at once. :D But there was that time I plugged a DC slot car motor into our AC wall outlet. And that Cherry bomb in the neighbors mailbox with a time delay fuse (a cigarette burning to the fuse stuck in one end) And the flaming tennis balls soaked in gasoline. And the bottle rocket wars.... Oh did I mention wheelies!!

There was one neighbor named Peter Davis (who passed away I believe) whose father was a vet in the 60's and they had a baby chimp who would get on the back of Peter's Honda SL100 and they would ride wheelies up and town Dillingham. They even made the newpaper with picture!

LOL, today PETA would be on the scene with a lawsuit for endangering chimps with cruel and unusual punishment. But I swear that ape loved it! :D

I used to ride my Honda 50 with my poodle in front of me with his paws on the handle bars! I swear he loved it! I'd say wanta go for a ride and he'd jump up and down and bark and wag his tail then leap right up on the seat with me! It was very funny!:laugh:

Isaac-Saxxon 06-14-2007 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle
Isaac, you have your pictures mixed up. That is Rhertz's old girlfriend. Here's mine:

Well Texasbelle I did know you had a girl friend but she looks a bit frigid :rolleyes:

Texasbelle 06-14-2007 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon
Well Texasbelle I did know you had a girl friend but she looks a bit frigid :rolleyes:

Whatever!

rhertz 06-14-2007 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle
That is Rhertz's old girlfriend.

LOL, I married my old girlfriend. I'm still waiting for my new girlfriend! ;) :D :eek:

(And I probably have a LONG way to go..hehehe)

rhertz 06-14-2007 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocahontas
I used to ride my Honda 50 with my poodle in front of me with his paws on the handle bars! I swear he loved it! I'd say wanta go for a ride and he'd jump up and down and bark and wag his tail then leap right up on the seat with me! It was very funny!:laugh:

I forget his name, but there used to be a desert motorcyle racer in the 70's who ducktaped carpet to his gas tank and raced with his dog between him and the handle bars! But it was bigger than a poodle!

I went on a boat ride the other day with a friend, and his dogs know the routine well. they love their ears flopping in the wind! They were actually smiling! I was sitting on the seat and I think I was in one dogs spot. Messed up his routine a little but the lab enjoyed it anyway while he stepped all over me and played sumo wrestling for "his" seat...


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