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Isaac-Saxxon 09-27-2007 02:52 PM

Bruce Springsteen's 'Magic' Has Anti-War Message
 
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Bruce Springsteen has already made his political feelings clear in the last couple of years. Remember his Ted Koppel interview? The series of concerts — Vote for Change — he did to support John Kerry?

On his new album, "Magic," Springsteen jumps right into the fray again. In a dramatic new REM-ish anthem called "Last to Die," he sings: "Who'll be the last to die for a mistake/The last to die for a mistake/Whose blood will spill, whose heart will break/Who'll be the last to die for a mistake."

The mistake is clearly the Iraq war. "We don't measure the blood we've drawn anymore," he sings. "We just stack the bodies outside the door."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298230,00.html
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guitarman 09-27-2007 03:09 PM

WAR

War hu yeah what is it good for absolutely nothin.
war hu yeah what is it good for absolutely nothin say it again y'all.
war hu good god what is it good for absolutely nothin listen to me

war I despise cause it means destruction of innocent lives
war brings tears to thousands of mothers eyes
when their sons go to fight and lose their lives.

I said war hu good god y'all what is it good for absolutely nothin say it again

war hu oh oh oh lord what is it good for absolutely nothin
listen to me war it aint nothin but a heart breaker
war friend only to the undertaker oh war

is an enemy to all mankind the thought of war blows my mind
war has caused unrest within the younger generation induction then destruction
who wants to die

oh war good god (background hu) y'all what is it good for absolutely nothin
say it say it say it
war hu what is it good for absolutely nothin listen to me
war it aint nothin but a heart breaker
war it's got one friend thats the undertaker oh

war many young mans dreams made him disabled
bitter and mean life is much too short and precious to spend fighting wars
these days war cant give life it can only take it away oh

war hu good god y'all what is it good for absolutely nothin
say it again
war hu woah oh oh oh lord what is it good for absolutely nothin listen to me
war it aint nothin but a heart breaker war friend only to the undertaker

peace love and understand
tell me is there no place for the other day
they say we must fight to keep our freedom
but lord knows theres got to be better way oh

war (background good god yall) hu what is it good for do tell yes
say it say it say it war hu (background good god y'all)
what is good for stand up and shout it nothin

Isaac-Saxxon 09-27-2007 03:41 PM

While Bruce is bitoching about the war maybe he should listen to this song.

There is a very good reason we fight the enemy. That is to protect people like Bruce and others so they can have their freedoms. Bruce is a fool :rolleyes: just because he has "some" good music does not mean he understands how important it is to support our troops and that does not mean feel sorry for them but support them !!

chitlin 09-27-2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LateNight (Post 21793)
So is the good majority of people in this country, who just don't understand what we are doing in Iraq.

I sure don't have a clue. . . And I don't believe we do our troops a disservice by discussing the issue.

It's all about Bush and Halliburton and big oil. Now milks gone up to almost $5 a gallon and I ca't get my kitchen light to come on, and a big ole coon got under my house and is stirring up a racket trying to eat my cats. So Bruce can kiss my A$$.

Pocahontas 09-27-2007 04:21 PM

I've been turned off by Bruce and his politics in recent years as well. But he's not alone, the majority of Hollywood and the entertainment world feel as he does, but that still doesn't make it "right!":rolleyes:

Isaac-Saxxon 09-27-2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LateNight (Post 21793)
So is the good majority of people in this country, who just don't understand what we are doing in Iraq.

I sure don't have a clue. . . And I don't believe we do our troops a disservice by discussing the issue.

I do not think we are doing a disservice either but bashing our troops and placing the DNC agenda ahead of winning this war is wrong. Yea I know he is a good ole boy from the upper east coast with is social elitist views and his bleeding heart attitude suck. I do like a few of his songs and he is playing to his kind of crowd kink of like the Dixie Chicks. Backlash 08 is just around the corner for the Boss and his counterparts.

Isaac-Saxxon 09-27-2007 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocahontas (Post 21802)
I've been turned off by Bruce and his politics in recent years as well. But he's not alone, the majority of Hollywood and the entertainment world feel as he does, but that still doesn't make it "right!":rolleyes:

Hollywood would like to think they call the shots in this country but they are so very wrong. Bruce can only see the tree in front of him and not the forest in large. The Boss :rolleyes:

Isaac-Saxxon 09-28-2007 01:57 PM

Yes I have mastered in bedding You Tube videos thanks to someone that stopped by my office and gave me some tech support.



Here is to our troops :pray:

Huldah 09-28-2007 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chitlin (Post 21799)
It's all about Bush and Halliburton and big oil. Now milks gone up to almost $5 a gallon and I ca't get my kitchen light to come on, and a big ole coon got under my house and is stirring up a racket trying to eat my cats. So Bruce can kiss my A$$.

Call animal control on the coon. They should be able to get it, if not try two other guys: Smith and Wesson.

Some of the reasons that milk has gotten so expensive are
The cost of transportation has gone up because the cost of gas has gone up.
This is likely to continue because the oil fields in the souther Gulf of Mexico have been hit by another tropical storm/huricane this week, and many other reasons too.
Another thing is that so many farmers are growing corn for "biofuel."
This is very problematic. The "greenies" have convinced us all that ethenol is a good answer to good old petrol. Well it turns out that "biofuels" puts out more pollutants than gas and if you live in the northern states, if you still have any in your gas tank when it freezes outside, you have a big problem. And in the southern states, the heat causes evaporation and water is the biproduct, which again is a big problem.
And again dedicating farm land to growing corn for fuel takes up space where we previously grew food for livestock and people. The government doesn't help by subsidising the farmers to grow certain things or not to grow certain things.
For me anyway, there is no easy answer. We each have to do what we can given what we have. To expect more is un-American. And don't listen to those socialist liberals -- driving their large SUVs and flying in private jets -- who are always spouting, "The masses should be taking public transportation, putting their heat on 65 degrees in the winter and leaving the lights off."
The money that I earn, I will spend as I see fit.

WOW! Where did that come from? Oh, yah, the price of milk.
Does chocolate milk come from chocolate cows?

Have a nice day.

Isaac-Saxxon 09-28-2007 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Huldah (Post 21855)
Call animal control on the coon. They should be able to get it, if not try two other guys: Smith and Wesson.

Some of the reasons that milk has gotten so expensive are
The cost of transportation has gone up because the cost of gas has gone up.
This is likely to continue because the oil fields in the souther Gulf of Mexico have been hit by another tropical storm/hurricane this week, and many other reasons too.
Another thing is that so many farmers are growing corn for "bio fuel."
This is very problematic. The "greenies" have convinced us all that ethanol is a good answer to good old petrol. Well it turns out that "biofuels" puts out more pollutants than gas and if you live in the northern states, if you still have any in your gas tank when it freezes outside, you have a big problem. And in the southern states, the heat causes evaporation and water is the byproduct, which again is a big problem.
And again dedicating farm land to growing corn for fuel takes up space where we previously grew food for livestock and people. The government doesn't help by subsidizing the farmers to grow certain things or not to grow certain things.
For me anyway, there is no easy answer. We each have to do what we can given what we have. To expect more is un-American. And don't listen to those socialist liberals -- driving their large SUVs and flying in private jets -- who are always spouting, "The masses should be taking public transportation, putting their heat on 65 degrees in the winter and leaving the lights off."
The money that I earn, I will spend as I see fit.

WOW! Where did that come from? Oh, yah, the price of milk.
Does chocolate milk come from chocolate cows?

Have a nice day.

I say it time to quit drinking milk :D Glad you got to vent Huldah. Seems the greenies have been high jacked by the liberal socialist. I know what they should do with their corn cobs :rolleyes:

chitlin 09-28-2007 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Huldah (Post 21855)
Call animal control on the coon. They should be able to get it, if not try two other guys: Smith and Wesson.

Some of the reasons that milk has gotten so expensive are
The cost of transportation has gone up because the cost of gas has gone up.
This is likely to continue because the oil fields in the souther Gulf of Mexico have been hit by another tropical storm/huricane this week, and many other reasons too.
Another thing is that so many farmers are growing corn for "biofuel."
This is very problematic. The "greenies" have convinced us all that ethenol is a good answer to good old petrol. Well it turns out that "biofuels" puts out more pollutants than gas and if you live in the northern states, if you still have any in your gas tank when it freezes outside, you have a big problem. And in the southern states, the heat causes evaporation and water is the biproduct, which again is a big problem.
And again dedicating farm land to growing corn for fuel takes up space where we previously grew food for livestock and people. The government doesn't help by subsidising the farmers to grow certain things or not to grow certain things.
For me anyway, there is no easy answer. We each have to do what we can given what we have. To expect more is un-American. And don't listen to those socialist liberals -- driving their large SUVs and flying in private jets -- who are always spouting, "The masses should be taking public transportation, putting their heat on 65 degrees in the winter and leaving the lights off."
The money that I earn, I will spend as I see fit.

WOW! Where did that come from? Oh, yah, the price of milk.
Does chocolate milk come from chocolate cows?

Have a nice day.

Huldah, I'm kinda old an sometimes fall asleep when I'm reading a long message. What about my kithen light? Now my microwave is screwed up.

rhertz 09-28-2007 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huldah (Post 21855)
Call animal control on the coon. They should be able to get it, if not try two other guys: Smith and Wesson.

Some of the reasons that milk has gotten so expensive are
The cost of transportation has gone up because the cost of gas has gone up.
This is likely to continue because the oil fields in the souther Gulf of Mexico have been hit by another tropical storm/huricane this week, and many other reasons too.
Another thing is that so many farmers are growing corn for "biofuel."
This is very problematic. The "greenies" have convinced us all that ethenol is a good answer to good old petrol. Well it turns out that "biofuels" puts out more pollutants than gas and if you live in the northern states, if you still have any in your gas tank when it freezes outside, you have a big problem. And in the southern states, the heat causes evaporation and water is the biproduct, which again is a big problem.
And again dedicating farm land to growing corn for fuel takes up space where we previously grew food for livestock and people. The government doesn't help by subsidising the farmers to grow certain things or not to grow certain things.
For me anyway, there is no easy answer. We each have to do what we can given what we have. To expect more is un-American. And don't listen to those socialist liberals -- driving their large SUVs and flying in private jets -- who are always spouting, "The masses should be taking public transportation, putting their heat on 65 degrees in the winter and leaving the lights off."
The money that I earn, I will spend as I see fit.

WOW! Where did that come from? Oh, yah, the price of milk.
Does chocolate milk come from chocolate cows?

Have a nice day.

Great Post there Huld. Very much like I feel....

rhertz 09-28-2007 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chitlin (Post 21865)
Huldah, I'm kinda old an sometimes fall asleep when I'm reading a long message. What about my kithen light? Now my microwave is screwed up.

Chit, you need to make a trip down to Wally World and buya a new microwave. Doesn't pay to fix a chinese made POS. What's wrong with your kitchen light? Did the wick burn out? Run out of oil? You dident foget to pay de light bill, did ya?

chitlin 09-28-2007 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rhertz (Post 21870)
Chit, you need to make a trip down to Wally World and buya a new microwave. Doesn't pay to fix a chinese made POS. What's wrong with your kitchen light? Did the wick burn out? Run out of oil? You dident foget to pay de light bill, did ya?

No I dident foget. The extension chord from where I get my electric gets hot sometimes. I dont no if this has something to do with it or not. Does anybody out there have any experience with this sort of thing. I got the coon. He'll be smoked up soon.

LateNight 09-28-2007 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chitlin (Post 21871)
No I dident foget. The extension chord from where I get my electric gets hot sometimes. I dont no if this has something to do with it or not. Does anybody out there have any experience with this sort of thing. I got the coon. He'll be smoked up soon.

Go to home-depot and get you some HEAVY DUTY extension cords.. those cheap wal-mart ones can't go but so many feet. :laugh:

Isaac-Saxxon 09-28-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon (Post 21786)
Bruce Springsteen has already made his political feelings clear in the last couple of years. Remember his Ted Koppel interview? The series of concerts — Vote for Change — he did to support John Kerry?

On his new album, "Magic," Springsteen jumps right into the fray again. In a dramatic new REM-ish anthem called "Last to Die," he sings: "Who'll be the last to die for a mistake/The last to die for a mistake/Whose blood will spill, whose heart will break/Who'll be the last to die for a mistake."

The mistake is clearly the Iraq war. "We don't measure the blood we've drawn anymore," he sings. "We just stack the bodies outside the door."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298230,00.html
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Da Bruce is back at his SOS again. I think he is from a blue state maybe a upper east coast and down by the river. Hey LN is he from your "Home Town" ?

rhertz 09-28-2007 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chitlin (Post 21871)
No I dident foget. The extension chord from where I get my electric gets hot sometimes. I dont no if this has something to do with it or not.

I'm sure your next door neighbor is delighted to hear that! Best bring him some fresh fried Chitlins to keep him happy! Maybe some homemade blackberry wine would hep too.

chitlin 09-28-2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rhertz (Post 21879)
I'm sure your next door neighbor is delighted to hear that! Best bring him some fresh fried Chitlins to keep him happy! Maybe some homemade blackberry wine would hep too.

Are you and Latenite pokin fun, cause I went to Jena, maybe we need some of that up here. I dont have any foldin money or big company connections for the reverends but I got memories and lots of famly thats down for the struggle.

rhertz 09-28-2007 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chitlin (Post 21882)
Are you and Latenite pokin fun, cause I went to Jena, maybe we need some of that up here. I dont have any foldin money or big company connections for the reverends but I got memories and lots of famly thats down for the struggle.

Pokin' fun?? Who me? :ducking:


BTW, anyone remember the Reverend Rufus Henry Jones with the Church of What's Happening Now? (Richard Pryor)

purpahurl 09-28-2007 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chitlin (Post 21799)
It's all about Bush and Halliburton and big oil. Now milks gone up to almost $5 a gallon and I ca't get my kitchen light to come on, and a big ole coon got under my house and is stirring up a racket trying to eat my cats. So Bruce can kiss my A$$.

Chitlin, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Do you live in Red River Parish, maybe on Henry Barbque Road?

Isaac-Saxxon 09-29-2007 06:43 PM

Chitlin done been ate up by a coon. Chitlin done gone MIA! Maybe he is at a Bruce Springsteen manifesto meeting.

chitlin 09-29-2007 10:35 PM

Chitlin aint been ate by nothin but the Spirit. I know what I know and I know it!

Isaac-Saxxon 10-01-2007 01:41 PM

Da Bruce the liberal joke from the blue east coast :throwup::throwup::throwup::throwup::throwup:

and his ugly sister Jane too.

Texasbelle 10-01-2007 09:43 PM

Didn't Bruce cheat on his wife with his back up singer? Yep, sounds like a liberal to me.

Pocahontas 10-01-2007 09:46 PM

It certainly puts a damper on a concert when the musicians ramble on about politics and their views. I'm usually there to unwind and not there for a political rally. Just shut up and sing!!:peace:

Al Swearengen 10-02-2007 12:12 AM

Far as adultery/infidelity bein synonymous with liberals and the left, lets just have a look at the members of the so-called "Moral Majority" or the White Christian Evangelical Right..yeah, we all know who they are, rightwingers to a man, and just about the sickest lot of deviants and pervs as you're ever likely to see outside of the Catholic Church! I've got no use for liberals either, but lets not pretend the left has a monopoly on immorality.

But I agree with Pokie, we attend the shows to hear em sing, watch em act, whatever...not hear about their politics! Celebs know all too well that when they use the stage as a soapbox, they run the risk of alienatin some of their fans. Not to say that celebs dont have a right to express their opinions like the rest of us, just that they should maybe give us some kind of "heads-up" that they plan to wax political before we purchase tickets or tune in to their performances so that those of us who're turned off by that kind of thing can make a more informed decision as to attendance. Personally, I can disagree with someone's political views and still appreciate their art/craft/talent. Havin said that, it'd be fine with me if they kept their political opinions to themselves.

Isaac-Saxxon 10-02-2007 05:38 AM

We really hold rapers to the fire over their lyrics and gangster rap. Music has always been a way to speak out. Makes it much easier to remember and Bruce is no different as Neil Young who is right at the top when it comes to be political in his music. With that said I do like some of Neils music as there are a few songs that Bruce does that I like. The songs with their left wing chant mixed in I do not like at all. Funny how the left chants free speech but are first ones to tell you sit down and shut up. I agree with Al that the Far Right does more than their share of the adultery and worse armchair judgment of others. We all have flaws and that makes us human. Thank you ladies and Al for your post.
Isaac

Texasbelle 10-02-2007 07:37 AM

Please make no mistake about it..I understand very clearly that adultery is all over the place with liberals and conservatives alike. I was just making a point mostly about Springsteen's character.

I agree with Al, Pokie, and Isaac that celebs are taking far too much liberty with their celeb status especially at concerts to hold fans hostage with their rants, etc on their views. I refuse to attend or give money to a musician who does this. I just won't do it.

Pocahontas 10-02-2007 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle (Post 21973)
Didn't Bruce cheat on his wife with his back up singer? Yep, sounds like a liberal to me.

Yes he most certainly did cheat and not on the sly. They were touring together and he and Patty Scialfa (now his wife) were seen rendezvousing all over the place.
I remember the photos and stories because I was very disheartend that Bruce would do this so publically. Oh well that said cheaters are all over both political parties...I'm still disappointed (but not surprised) at David Vitter.:(

Texasbelle 10-02-2007 07:43 AM

Yes Vitter is a disappointment. He has somewhat owned up to his inappropriate behavior and did not lie about it. I do give him a nod for that.

Isaac-Saxxon 10-03-2007 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Texasbelle (Post 21994)
Yes Vitter is a disappointment. He has somewhat owned up to his inappropriate behavior and did not lie about it. I do give him a nod for that.

Vitter like Bruce and Jane have compromised their credibility. I could never view Vitter with out thinking oh how he cheated on his wife and add he cheated with a lady of the night. Being a politician his standard "should" be much higher. The only time being bad pays off is if you are a democrat. Look at some of our local politicians. Bruce and Jane are tainted goods and can you watch either one with out thinking about how they sympathize with our enemy and put down our troops ? :nono::nono: I am sure people of like minded politics could over look it but those that support our country and are willing to stand up and say so will never forget there heresy.

LateNight 10-03-2007 08:17 AM

oh please, tell me one time. Springsteen EVER "put down" the troops ?

Isaac-Saxxon 10-03-2007 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LateNight (Post 22058)
oh please, tell me one time. Springsteen EVER "put down" the troops ?

Please go back and read the thread and maybe you will see and if not try listening to the youtube I posted and if still have a problem understanding then sleep on.


"Up stairs the band was playin' and the singer was singin' somethin' 'bout going home"

If the singer would sing instead of bashing our country and way of government then this thread would not be here.

LateNight 10-03-2007 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon (Post 22061)
Please go back and read the thread and maybe you will see and if not try listening to the youtube I posted and if still have a problem understanding then sleep on.


"Up stairs the band was playin' and the singer was singin' somethin' 'bout going home"

If the singer would sing instead of bashing our country and way of government then this thread would not be here.

So apparently, he's warned us, not to have "Blind Faith" in our leaders.. well, **** I'll agree with that.. They are just politicians.. not all knowing, and they sure the heck don't tell us the truth about everything. so sounds like good advice to me. And apparently, he's wanting to get our troops out of harms way in Iraq, in a war that's gonna go on for freakin' ever. Where's the part he "Puts down" the troops ? According you, I'm Anti-American, because I sure the heck don't understand this war, and I'm anxious to get our troops out of that cluster **** that is Iraq.

But that means nothing, you're more content to just throw **** out here, and see if it sticks.

Apparently EVERYONE in this country, who doesn't get this war, and there's plenty of them, are all Anti-American.. wow.. that's just ****ing incredible.

Isaac-Saxxon 10-03-2007 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LateNight (Post 22062)
So apparently, he's warned us, not to have "Blind Faith" in our leaders.. well, **** I'll agree with that.. They are just politicians.. not all knowing, and they sure the heck don't tell us the truth about everything. so sounds like good advice to me. And apparently, he's wanting to get our troops out of harms way in Iraq, in a war that's gonna go on for freakin' ever. Where's the part he "Puts down" the troops ? According you, I'm Anti-American, because I sure the heck don't understand this war, and I'm anxious to get our troops out of that cluster **** that is Iraq.

But that means nothing, you're more content to just throw **** out here, and see if it sticks.

Apparently EVERYONE in this country, who doesn't get this war, and there's plenty of them, are all Anti-American.. wow.. that's just ****ing incredible.

There are plenty of them. You got that right. Same thing happened in Vietnam and that is why FYI I posted his sister Jane. Just because you and like minded people do not have the back bone to stand up does not change the fact that Iraq, Iran and many others want to bring war to this country. I see you fell off the fence and on to the left side. Your choice we can agree to disagree :D no need for the foul language on the board :rolleyes:
You do not like our way of government and the people running then try another country. That is choice too. Bruce and Jane are elite socialist and their political rants mixed with entertainment are way off base. Nothing new here always been the M.O. of the bleeding heart liberal socialist. :peace:

LateNight 10-03-2007 09:37 AM

So now, I'm un-american, and have no backbone.. incredible.
I might as well be posting on the Rush Limbaugh forum somewhere.. it ain't facts, opinions or debate you want to hear, you want to throw out the best 10 second sound byte, and hopes something sticks.

You don't know me from Adam, but you've got me lumped in with Jane Fonda. Absolutely incredible.

Isaac-Saxxon 10-03-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LateNight (Post 22067)
So now, I'm un-American, and have no backbone.. incredible.
I might as well be posting on the Rush Limbaugh forum somewhere.. it ain't facts, opinions or debate you want to hear, you want to throw out the best 10 second sound byte, and hopes something sticks.

You don't know me from Adam, but you've got me lumped in with Jane Fonda. Absolutely incredible.

Hey Adam :laugh: if the shoe fits :shoethrow: Bruce and Jane (sounds like a book) are not living in the real world. We pull our troops and send them money they will still want to kill Americans !!! People that lack the back bone to stand up will be run over. It is good to see your true colors come out Adam and maybe try getting up on your side of the bed tomorrow and standing with the American soldier not against. FYI I never listen to Rush Limbaugh or any other talk show host.

This might help you with a history lesson : :peace: the old fashion way !




I hope you all will watch this youtube :flag:

LateNight 10-03-2007 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon (Post 22068)
It is good to see your true colors come out Adam and maybe try getting up on your side of the bed tomorrow and standing with the American soldier not against.

Once again you are library of miss-information. not once have I ever stood "against" an American soldier ever.. but it makes you feel better to post that crap out here. And yea, I'm gonna cuss about it, I won't stand by and be told I'm un-american. or stand against our troops. It doesn't make it so, because you freakin' said so.

Isaac-Saxxon 10-03-2007 11:48 AM

Well cuss away if it helps you believe that running is better than standing up to our enemy. What you have posted is your opinion and you can see that we do not agree on who our enemy really is. Vietnam used the media to piss in our ear and now Iran and Syria are too and you take it hook line and sinker. It does not make it so because you and Bruce think so either. It is good to see you come out of the closet and show your true colors. God Bless America and the American soldier. I feel real sure Bruce/Jane will reap what they sow !

LateNight 10-03-2007 11:49 AM

so according to your logic.. uh lets. see.. Bob Dylan, or uh.. Tom Petty.. or President Ronald Reagan are ALL UN-AMERICAN ?

Yes I said Ronald Reagan. here was someone who understood.. the problems with freakin' Vietnam.. that it's not a matter of supporting the troops or not.. Ronnie said "It was, after all, however imperfectly pursued, the cause of freedom; and they showed uncommon courage in its service. Perhaps at this late date we can all agree that we've learned one lesson: that young Americans must never again be sent to fight and die unless we are prepared to let them win."

And that right there is my problem with the Iraq war..

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon (Post 22071)
Vietnam used the media to piss in our ear and now Iran and Syria are too and you take it hook line and sinker.

again, more of your miss-information.. I've said nothing of what I hear, or think of Vietnam or Iran or Syria.. Iran and Syria are serious threats to this country.. don't mix them up with my thoughts on this prolonged, no direction Iraqi war.


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