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sbl_admin 05-15-2007 03:18 PM

Rev. Jerry Falwell Is Dead
 
The Rev. Jerry Falwell, the television evangelist who founded the Moral Majority and used it to mold the religious right into a political force, died Tuesday shortly after being found unconscious in his office at Liberty University. He was 73.

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 03:43 PM

Miracle Man


BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 03:46 PM

And of course, we can't forget the Slayer tribute:

Read Between the Lies

Evangelist you claim God speaks through you,
Your restless mouth full of lies gains popularity.
You care not for the old that suffer,
When empty pockets cry from hunger.

Penniless from their generosity,
Sharing their money to quench your greed.
Searching for the answer to their prayers
They cry their last wish of need.
Save me.

His spirit lives and breathes in me.
The almighty transformed to your screen.
The meanings lost in its translation,
No holy words, describe his deception.

You say you'll help us find the lord,
Tell me preacher how do you know
A simple quest for a visible savior,
To lead us through our final prayer.
Save me.

Send your donations,
Contribute to the cause.
Luxuries,
Your righteous reward?

Praise the lord, praise god,
Is what you wish to sell.
There is no heaven without a hell.

LEAD: HANNEMAN

In your mind's eye could you truly believe,
That by giving you can save your soul,
Could you be so naive!
You heal the sick,[you] raise the dead,
You blind the congregation
With the things you say.

Religious blackmail a deceit of trust,
That death will come and all will be lost.

Can you hear the serpents call,
Look deep in those deceiving eyes.
Ignore the writing on the wall,
You should read between the lies.

When doubt subsides his honesty,
An inquiry, is it blasphemy?
Impure the soul, that's made to suffer,
No sermons left to hide or cover,
An empty promise, lie unfulfilled,
To steal a dream or get it killed.
They claim your trip to heavens nearby,
You may believe it but satan wouldn't lie.

rhertz 05-15-2007 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
And of course, we can't forget the Slayer tribute:
Read Between the Lies

Brainsmasher you should move closer to your own kind.... Maybe all the way to Iran where you will find like minded friends!!

عروسه ننم مي شي؟Evangelist you claim God speaks through you. انجیل نویس ، تو ادعا میکنی که خدا از طریق تو صحبت میکند ...

http://samineh1.persianblog.com/

joepole 05-15-2007 04:19 PM

If thinking Jerry Falwell was an ass is anti-American then hand me my Koran, I'm moving, too.

rhertz 05-15-2007 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by joepole
If thinking Jerry Falwell was an ass is anti-American then hand me my Koran, I'm moving, too.

There is a difference in believing Jerry Falwell was an ass, and believing that all Evangelists are therefore the same. That is like saying because Bin Laden is an ass, then all Arabs must be the same.

I just don't see where using Jerry Falwell's death as an opportunity to bash all Evangelists in a general sense is a good thing to be doing here in the bible belt, especially when there are sites in Iran where that sort of thing is much more popular and acceptable.

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhertz
Brainsmasher you should move closer to your own kind.... Maybe all the way to Iran where you will find like minded friends!!

عروسه ننم مي شي؟Evangelist you claim God speaks through you. انجیل نویس ، تو ادعا میکنی که خدا از طریق تو صحبت میکند ...

http://samineh1.persianblog.com/


Just as soon as you move to communist China where free speech is forbidden.

Maybe you won't get run over by a tank before you remember what makes our country so special....but we can still hope you do.....


Let me guess....you're one of those idiots who thinks you can save a soul with a checkbook, huh?

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhertz
There is a difference in believing Jerry Falwell was an ass, and believing that all Evangelists are therefore the same. That is like saying because Bin Laden is an ass, then all Arabs must be the same.

I just don't see where using Jerry Falwell's death as an opportunity to bash all Evangelists in a general sense is a good thing to be doing here in the bible belt, especially when there are sites in Iran where that sort of thing is much more popular and acceptable.


Some would say it's not a good thing to call exercising your First Amendment Right to free speech a promotion of Islam or any other religion based on the idiotic belief in imaginary beings.

Then again, most religious zealots ARE idiots, aren't they?

Isaac-Saxxon 05-15-2007 06:06 PM

I first must say that I think most high dollar preachers are not worth their pay matter of fact all of them should be "Teaching" from the heart and not the pocket book. With that said I think Jerry had his problems no doubt. Now for all of you that would like to run to judgment you will be the first to be judged by YAHWEH ("I AM WHO I AM") and held accountable for your words and actions. Yes I know you do not choose to believe as I do so be it:rolleyes: Your method is to attack and tear down as it was written so it is happening. The dark side has but a short time so they must work fast only to have the fate of the Tares. The wheat are the children of YAHWEH ("I AM WHO I AM") and they shall bow before HIM with rewards and the Tares go into the fire. Before you go on your attack Legion know that the SON OF DAVID will crush your head as you bruise his heal and your time is very, very, very short. There is but ONE JUDGE !!!!
ISAAC SAXXON

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 06:14 PM

Laughing Out Loud

BTW, my method is NOT attack, but rather to ridicule. Notice I LAUGH at your stupidity rather than asking you to meet me in a parking lot.

This is just another blatant example of your continued religious propaganda.

rhertz 05-15-2007 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Just as soon as you move to communist China where free speech is forbidden.

Yeah China.... Or Iran... You think you could find a Slayer song that bashes Islam on that Persian site that seems to be in sync with your beliefs? I don't think so.


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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Let me guess....you're one of those idiots who thinks you can save a soul with a checkbook, huh? (Unnecessary yelling turned down)

Nope, I'm not a fan of Jerry or telemarketers in general.. See that is the difference between you and me. I might not like or agree with Falwell, but that doesn't mean that I'm a low level stereotyper who then thinks all "men of the cloth" are bad/wrong.... In other words, I don't throw out the baby with the bath water....

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhertz
Yeah China.... Or Iran... You think you could find a Slayer song that bashes Islam on that Persian site that seems to be in sync with your beliefs? I don't think so.

Why would they bash Islam.....that's not their gimmick. You ever see kiss wearing masks instead of makeup? That's not their gimmick. You ever see Elton John wearing a normal pair of glasses? That's not his gimmick. You ever heard Black Sabbath write a song bashing Islam? That's not their gimmick.

Get it, genius?

We're GLAD you find it offensive. THAT was the point.

Quote:

Nope, I'm not a fan of Jerry or telemarketers in general.. See that is the difference between you and me. I might not like or agree with Falwell, but that doesn't mean that I'm a low level stereotyper who then thinks all "men of the cloth" are bad/wrong.... In other words, I don't throw out the baby with the bath water....
Yep, anyone who makes a claim they cannot support is a liar and I don't differentiate between them regardless of what imaginary being they are preaching about.

BTW, show me the one that can produce a visible savior and I'll stop stereotyping them ALL. The difference between me and you is I can tell the difference between fiction and reality.

Isaac-Saxxon 05-15-2007 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Laughing Out Loud

BTW, my method is NOT attack, but rather to ridicule. Notice I LAUGH at your stupidity rather than asking you to meet me in a parking lot.

This is just another blatant example of your continued religious propaganda.

The "Accuser" is another one of his names so you fit the mold just fine. I stated what I believe as you have and we are diametrically apposed and I am very content to know that. You have many fires to flame so waste no time for time is very short !

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 06:38 PM

LAF

So you believe I'm the devil

You're more ****ed in the head than Hugo Chavez.

rhertz 05-15-2007 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Then again, most religious zealots ARE idiots, aren't they?

Your cut&paste post is off topic my dear friend. Heh, a monkey can cut&paste. Can you write for yourself?

Had you posted a Slayer song against Falwell, (or one that you had thoughtfully written yourself) I doubt I would have cared to response. But you took the opportunity to post a pot shot that your average Iranian might post (as i have demonstrated) in a completely stereotypical nature.

Your post was not meant as a comment toward the news but rather it was a mean spirited and inciteful push of the proverbial relgious button, as your above quote demonstates. (and as Slayer intended I'm sure) Yep, it is only a matter of time before you abuse the privledge and this thread gets closed for "drifting" off topic. I prefer to think of it as slamming it off topic, using the old tried and true "religious zealots ARE idiots" method. But each person can make up his or her own mind here.

rhertz 05-15-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
LAF

So you believe I'm the devil

No, more like - Forsaken (by your own admission)

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhertz
Your cut&paste post is off topic my dear friend. Heh, a monkey can cut&paste. Can you write for yourself?

Exactly where did I claim to be a musician?
Quote:

Had you posted a Slayer song against Falwell, (or one that you had thoughtfully written yourself) I doubt I would have cared to response. But you took the opportunity to post a pot shot that your average Iranian might post (as i have demonstrated) in a completely stereotypical nature.
WOW. Imagine two non christian beliefs "preaching" concepts you disagree with.

Must be some kind of fluke, huh? I mean no one has ever gone to war over their differing religious beliefs, have they stupid?
Quote:

Your post was not meant as a comment toward the news but rather it was a mean spirited and inciteful push of the proverbial relgious button, as your above quote demonstates.
Wow, I didn't realize christians thought they were psychic too. I thought your god only bestowed stupidity on his followers.

See the difference between attacking Christians and merely posting song lyrics?

Quote:

(and as Slayer intended I'm sure) Yep, it is only a matter of time before you abuse the privledge and this thread gets closed for "drifting" off topic. I prefer to think of it as slamming it off topic, using the old tried and true "religious zealots ARE idiots" method. But each person can make up his or her own mind here.
And yet you continue to tell me what MY intention are even though "each person can make up his or her own mind here"

Funny how your actions very rarely reflect your words...but that's typical of most christians. Again, see the difference between an attack on your beliefs and the posting of song lyrics?

Isaac-Saxxon 05-15-2007 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
LAF

So you believe I'm the devil

You're more ****ed in the head than Hugo Chavez.

You are not that smart there brian child you are but a small pawn in the big game say one of his "little" minions. Just evil not even good at that.

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhertz
No, more like - Forsaken (by your own admission)


Ahhh, exercising that god given psychic ability and speaking for Isaac now, huh?

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon
You are not that smart there brian child you are but a small pawn in the big game say one of his "little" minions. Just evil not even good at that.

Satan's principle activity is as accuser. The word devil means "slanderer, accuser." The devil accuses us before God (Job 1-2). Revelation says that he is the "accuser of our brothers, who accuses them before our God day and night" (Revelation 12:10). He also slanders us before men. He tries to make sure that any good work done by Christ's church receives a bad name. The devil and his demons also accuse us to ourselves. He wants to make us feel guilty.


Just caught you in another lie, zealot.

rhertz 05-15-2007 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Ahhh, exercising that god given psychic ability and speaking for Isaac now, huh?

No just reading your avatar with the cross above the word "Forsaken".. Like Duh!!

Al Swearengen 05-15-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
BTW, my method is NOT attack, but rather to ridicule.


LOL...I thought YOUR method involved curlin your lips over your teeth and the liberal use of vaseline?

The "confirmed catholic" athiest just cant stand Christianity. Makes ya wonder, dont it folks? I'd bet anything "Brain" here was molested at some point by a catholic priest...sure would explain alot, wouldnt it? Ya have my sympathies, Brain. Get yourself a lawyer and go after em.

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rhertz
No just reading your avatar with the cross above the word "Forsaken".. Like Duh!!

Ahh, so you totally ignored HIS comment then, which was to call me alternative names, quoted in the BIBLE, for the devil himself.

Imagine my surprise....

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen
LOL...I thought YOUR method involved curlin your lips over your teeth and the liberal use of vaseline?

The "confirmed catholic" athiest just cant stand Christianity. Makes ya wonder, dont it folks? I'd bet anything "Brain" here was molested at some point by a catholic priest...sure would explain alot, wouldnt it? Ya have my sympathies, Brain. Get yourself a lawyer and go after em.


Well that what you get for thinking isn't it.

BTW, My phone number is still the same whenever you feel like testing out your little theory, puss.

Isaac-Saxxon 05-15-2007 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Satan's principle activity is as accuser. The word devil means "slanderer, accuser." The devil accuses us before God (Job 1-2). Revelation says that he is the "accuser of our brothers, who accuses them before our God day and night" (Revelation 12:10). He also slanders us before men. He tries to make sure that any good work done by Christ's church receives a bad name. The devil and his demons also accuse us to ourselves. He wants to make us feel guilty.


Just caught you in another lie, zealot.

You know I am right on the money here and accuse away it will not change the facts brain. You can call names and beat you head on the key board for all I care you will still come to know one day that your are on the wrong thread now you fate as I said is up to "I AM THAT I AM" Ehyeh asher ehyeh and then and only then will you know the ill of what comes out of your vile sacrilege mouth.

No lies just truth and yes I am a zealot for what it is I believe so you did get something right Brain.
Rhertz is not so much standing up for me as he is what he believes :clap:

rhertz 05-15-2007 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Ahh, so you totally ignored HIS comment then, which was to call me alternative names, quoted in the BIBLE, for the devil himself.

Imagine my surprise....

Yeah I missed that.....sorry I do not read every post every time.

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 07:15 PM

Am I supposed to be ashamed that a fool thinks I'm a god?

Or is the fool ashamed that he can't control the continuous string of lies coming out of his mouth and therefore can't control the thrashing he's getting on biblical knowledge?

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rhertz
Yeah I missed that.....sorry I do not read every post every time.


Fair enough.....At least you're honest. I can't expect anymore than that.

Isaac-Saxxon 05-15-2007 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Am I supposed to be ashamed that a fool thinks I'm a god?

Or is the fool ashamed that he can't control the continuous string of lies coming out of his mouth and therefore can't control the thrashing he's getting on biblical knowledge?

You are the fool Sir ! I do think your new avatar goes with your dark side approach to life. Well done because a avatar should reflect who you are.

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon
You know I am right on the money here and accuse away it will not change the facts brain. You can call names and beat you head on the key board for all I care you will still come to know one day that your are on the wrong thread now you fate as I said is up to "I AM THAT I AM" Ehyeh asher ehyeh and then and only then will you know the ill of what comes out of your vile sacrilege mouth.

No lies just truth and yes I am a zealot for what it is I believe so you did get something right Brain.
Rhertz is not so much standing up for me as he is what he believes :clap:


Umm, actually, he just admitted he was defending a position he had no background information on.

Another blatant example of your continued use of propaganda.

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon
You are the fool Sir ! I do think your new avatar goes with your dark side approach to life. Well done because a avatar should reflect who you are.

Well then your avatar of an imaginary being created by C. S. Lewis for a children's book is quite appropriate as well.

rhertz 05-15-2007 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen
LOL...I thought YOUR method involved curlin your lips over your teeth and the liberal use of vaseline?

Hey Al!! Howya been?? I missed you there buddy!! :D :D :D

Al Swearengen 05-15-2007 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Well that what you get for thinking isn't it.

BTW, My phone number is still the same whenever you feel like testing out your little theory, puss.


Yeah yeah...again with the internet toughguy bit. I just feel sorry for ya now...if ya havent already sued the priest, ya should. Wont undo the molestation YOU had to endure, but ya might be able to save the next choirboy.

Al Swearengen 05-15-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rhertz
Hey Al!! Howya been?? I missed you there buddy!! :D :D :D

Hey RHertz, just been watchin "The Sopranos"...LateNight lended the first season to me! Very addictive!

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Swearengen
Yeah yeah...again with the internet toughguy bit. I just feel sorry for ya now...if ya havent already sued the priest, ya should. Wont undo the molestation YOU had to endure, but ya might be able to save the next choirboy.

Why would I sue a priest for turning your queer ass out? I just wish he'd told me you were a puss before I wasted time trying to accept your hahahaha challenge hahahahaha

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen
Hey RHertz, just been watchin "The Sopranos"...LateNight lended the first season to me! Very addictive!

Imagine a gun toting puss watching other gun toting pusses.

Isaac-Saxxon 05-15-2007 07:30 PM

Molon Labe! Sir Al ! Molon Labe!
 
Good to see you posting this evening Al. I think everyone knows who the square peg is here. I think block head would be a good fit :laugh: The harvest is near and think of a eternity with out such evil around us. I guess we could pity him because he has drank from the cup of evil dregs but it would not help one bit. It is his choice. Now I did here brain on the SUV thread evoking the majority on this board thing :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Al Swearengen 05-15-2007 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-Saxxon
Good to see you posting this evening Al. I think everyone knows who the square peg is here. I think block head would be a good fit :laugh: The harvest is near and think of a eternity with out such evil around us. I guess we could pity him because he has drank from the cup of evil dregs but it would not help one bit. It is his choice. Now I did here brain on the SUV thread evoking the majority on this board thing :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Hello Isaac...yeah, I saw that too...Joe was just bein Joe, though. But I doubt if he would really do anything to endanger his children...he was just bein controversial.

rhertz 05-15-2007 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BrainSmashR
Fair enough.....At least you're honest. I can't expect anymore than that.

I really am honest. Probably my worst fault in the eyes of some people... Otherwise I'm sure I'd be more phun to phuck with! Heck who knows, maybe if I had been though what you have evidently been through, I might be as bit cynical too, and jumpin' at the chance for some brief satisfaction.

Brain, I mean this most sincerely. I have problems but I do not attack those who I think are wrong. I am under attack much more often than I would like. Even right now. Maybe I'm in a lawsuit. Or maybe I'm a ex-coach for Southwood. Whatever I have my issues with certain kinds of people... THIS is why I believe in what I do, not why I DON't believe in what I do. One man's torture is another man's pleasure (skydiving for example) I'm not an evangelist, but I do find much benefit to practicing the "C" word. Maybe you will too before it's all over with, and maybe you won't. But don't hold it against those of us who try. To each his own......

BrainSmashR 05-15-2007 07:37 PM

Rhertz...I'm directing this post at you because you were the latest perpetrator.

Even though some of us have differing opinions from time to time, it is quite obvious when someone is arguing a point they are totally clueless about. I mean differing interpretation of the law or a bible verse is one thing, but Isaac was perfectly clear in the terms he used and it was equally clear that you had either NOT read his words or NOT read the bible.

Therefore I argue with extra exuberance....cause and effect.

Likewise, you were doing basically the same thing with the lyrics I posted. Trying to say I was attempting to do something I clearly was not based on your near total lack of knowledge concerning the subject. Many, many, many rock bands wrote anti Evangelical songs when this controversy broke and not one of them (to my knowledge) is promoting any other religion with the exception of Slayer because Satanism is their gimmick just like Black Sabbath before them.


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