Could Mars Be Inhabited?
 

A Mars-orbiting satellite recently spotted seven dark spots near the planet's equator that scientists think could be entrances to underground caves.

Did they find a face on Mars ?
 

Yes I think they did. It kind of looked like Rosie :laugh:

Face on Mars - photo by the Viking probe
 

Here's the Martian face to which you refer. I remember seeing this years ago and thought it was creepy.

Good find Anime
 

Is that photo real. I have learned the hard way to question things like this :D
It looks like someone trying to get out of the inside of a balloon or the face on the Wall CD :laugh:
Isaac

It is real (taken on one of the Viking missions in the 70s) but subsequent photos have shown it to be an artifact of strange lighting.

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/..._may2001/face/

There have been several studies that have found that human brains were exceptional at recognizing and identifying the shape of the human face.

Brain would know scientists are always right :peace::D:clap:

The million dollar question ? Are we alone
 

With the Hubble and much more imaging that we have to view the universe there is still no sign of "liquid water" and no sign of life on any planet that we can even see. Is it just the way the big bang went or is it creation ? Now we are back at square one. Joe is there a mathematical formula on the odds that we are the only planet to be covered with water and untold amounts of live both plant and animal ?
Isaac
It is the question that drives us. What is the Matrix :confused: :confused:
Hey Neo got time to answer this conundrum ?

Isaac, does the bible make any statements regarding the question if we are alone or not? I think I remember a Discovery show years ago that tried to prove the existence of UFO's and it showed artwork in caves as well as quotes from the Bible as I recall.

Yes it does rhertz
 

I believe that would be in Ezekiel ! I think referred to as a whirlwind or in the Greek highly polish bronze.
Ezekiel 1:4
And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
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One more place Acts 1:9-11
And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
I am so glad you ask rhertz I think !
Isaac
Bible bashers get in line you can not be first only next :rolleyes:

Wow, cool pic there Isaac. Just for the record, I believe in UFO's. LOL, it's the extraterrestrial aliens I'm not so sure of. Just kidding. I think that statistically speaking, there is only an infinitesimal chance that we are alone in the universe. That is to say, there is nearly an infinite certainly that there is other life in the universe. I was curious if my religion might support my belief in this topic.

If you want to work the odds, then we are almost certainly not the only life in the universe, but we are also almost certainly too far from anyone else to have made contact yet. Remember, the universe had been expanding (most likely at about the speed of light) for 10 or so billion years, meaning we're about 10 billion light years away from any other random point.

I like your post joe you should get points here
 

If that is the case and I am not the math man you are then would the earth and sun be moving away at the same speed ? Or is our solar system moving at that speed ?
Isaac

Yes.

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I don't know about that. If you mark 2 points on a balloon with a marker and begin blowing it up, these two points would most certainly move away from each other. They would not, however, move away from each other near as fast as the expansion speed of the balloon itself. If two planets bearing the seeds of life were side-by-side billions of years ago, they would likely be far out of sight now after billions of years, but not by light years.

One light year is roughly 5,879,000,000,000 miles.

Inside a sphere with radius r, the mean of the distance between any two random points is either r or r/2. I'm pretty sure it was the former, but even if it's r/2 that's plenty of distance (5 billion light years).

>If you mark 2 points on a balloon with a marker and begin blowing it up, these two points would most certainly move away from each other. They would not, however, move away from each other near as fast as the expansion speed of the balloon itself.

For specific points it depends on where exactly they are in relation to each other. if they are on opposite sides of the balloon they would move apart at twice the rate of the expanding radius. If they were right next to each other they would barely move apart.

Let's move it to two dimensions to make it simpler here:

Assuming the angle between points a and b is 2Θ (you'll see why i chose 2Θ instead of Θ in a second) then I get the straight (not circumferential) distance between them is 2r(cosΘ), so as Θ approaches 90 from 0 (and thus the angle between the points approaches 180 from 0) you'll see that ab approaches 2r from 0

I have absolutely no idea how to post an integral here, but it's a fairly straight-forward first order one that shows for the entire circumference the mean distance is linear with r with a coefficient of 2π.

If those two points are on opposite sides of the sphere, the rate of expansion would be the same as the rate of expansion of the radius. Now, if these two points represented the only worlds with life on them and one of them is Earth, then we'd probably never know if the other exists. If there are several points throughout the sphere then there would be those close enough to confirm even as the sphere expands.

Joe you are the math man for sure
 

I have to hand it to you Joe you do your home work. Joe do you believe in creation or the big bang ? Can you give me the reason why ? I do like your post and even though I do not agree it is good to have you posting on this board. I will keep you in my prayers and until the last breath you are still in the game.
Isaac

>If those two points are on opposite sides of the sphere, the rate of expansion would be the same as the rate of expansion of the radius.

No, it would be double.

Oh, pardon me! I meant to say it is equal to the diameter's expansion. Got my geometry terms crossed for a moment.

Wanna quick way to end a thread? Bring Geometry into it! ;)