Are you a Christian ?
 

Post your thoughts pro or con :clap: if you dare !

I most definitely am a Christian and proud of it! I would like to hear from some others that say they aren't. What or who if anybody do they worship and why? Oh goodness Isaac you've opened a can of worms!:clap:

Pocahontas I just wanted to see who stands where. This is American and freedom of religion is the individuals choice and this poll might just show us where this board stands. Thank you for your post :clap: I am sure by the end of the day there will be a good snapshot of what the avatars believe.

I agree. This thread will definitely bring some flames up. You all know my stand already. I'm a Pagan and quite proud of it.

Although, your 2nd and 3rd options are rather synonyous, aren't they?

I am sure it's clear by now but just in case...I am a Christian.

Anime there are people like you that do have another faith. There are people that do not believe there is any kind of creator so I added it to the poll. I respect you view because you have one even if I do not agree. You do not attack others you keep a cool head unlike me at times and others on this board. I hope this might lay some of the fighting to rest by letting everyone get their thoughts off their chest and move on to threads that are fun threads instead of mean spirited thread. Thank you for your post :clap:

I try to make fun threads, but no one replies to them. :confused: I wonder what happened to that other anime fan that popped up last week.

He doesn't understand they are the same thing.....look at the excuse he gave you.

Isaac, you're poll should read:
1. Christian
2. Atheist
3. Other
because that's what you're looking for

Your poll is flawed because you are either Christian or you are not Christian, likewise, you are Christian or you are of another faith.

You know I forgot to ask brain how I should have done this :nono: NOT ! You do your own poll if you "think" you know so much. The poll and the post will speak for themselves just like you when you make a post brain it says all that needs to be said about you. Glad you voiced your opinion and you voted I see .

ok, nearly 50% of the people posting on this topic have questioned the accuracy of your poll and it just so happens to be a full 100% of the people who aren't christian and 25% of all of those participating in the poll....but you go right on ahead and pretend that this will prove anything more than even an idiot and rig a poll to show what he wants it to show

BTW, do I get to vote twice since I'm not a christian AND I have faith in both man and science?

Oh yes I remember her, Sexy Sadie?! She just came and went in a flash.

Let me help you with your hanging chad :laugh: man and science :confused:
vote for other faith or do not vote at all it is your choice. :rolleyes: The answer to voting twice is NO :nono: does that help ?

Can I not have faith in my own beliefs and be secure with that thought? I guess you mean organized religion.. but maybe my beliefs could become a religion some day? Anyway.. I put the obvious one.

No I am not a Christian
BrainSmashR, Santabot

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I am a Christian.

No, as you have provided multiple choices that apply to the 4 billion people on this planet who are not Christian.

I wanna change my vote since I can't vote twice and was unclear as to exactly what you were asking. I am indeed not a christian, but I have faith, it's called science, and technically speaking, we as human beings teach THIS system of beliefs to more people than the number of Christians and Muslims combined.

What do you know, right off the bat your survey has a nearly 10% margin of error. God forbid that Santabot and Anime have fallen victim to the same error in your logic, suddenly your margin of error is pushing 30%.....but it should be interesting to see what conclusions you draw, none the less.

I don't see what the big deal is!? Just pick an answer already!!:p

I don't see what the big deal is with Christianity, maybe you should allow him some breathing room to decide.. you know.. his whole belief system?

It's not that easy.. and if you take it that way, it seriously discredits your message to others that religion is a serious means of living and yours is any better than another.

I believe he's had 36 years to think about it!!:rolleyes:

Yeah Isaac should have been politically correct enough to word his poll in a sensitive manner so everyone can participate..... Something like:

Are you a Christian?

a) Yes, I'm a Christian Zealot
b) No, I'm a normal person
c) Yes I'm Christian but I'm gay, which is like a "carbon credit" for Christians

He knows how he wants to vote, but he enjoys being a jerk and jacking with folks.

True Christians
 

Isaac. It's ashame that real Christians are ashamed to stand up and be counted. I heard a story about a church where a sermon was going on, gunman broke in and orderd everyone that believed in god to raise their hand, few did, they told everyone else to leave. Then they told the preacher "now that the non believers are gone, commence with your sermon". I guess the same will be true in the end!

I used to be a Christian, and I didn't have enough time until now to think about it, and I still am. If you don't question your religion or your faith, what are you? Why even exist if all you do is uphold a book that doesn't change? You can't affect anything in the world or do any duty other than serve a text, for what reason? Who knows.

Knowing how I want to vote is considerably different than answering the question properly.

If someone asked you to define Pi, 3.14 is a proper answer, but it is neither the whole answer NOR is it the most accurate answer you could provide.

You like beating around the very large bush, don't you? :laugh:

It's called playing the Devil's Advocate. I state the obvious in hopes of them recognizing the error of their ways.....but hey, I could be wrong. We'll have to wait and see what Isaac's conclusions are....

Maybe you are on to something. At 17 you can't think fully because your still growing. You should be asking questions instead of making statements, and so I will try to answer some of them.

Re:What am I? I am an adult who once questioned my faith at 17 but no longer. At some point, you must make a decision or else find yourself asking questions your whole life.

Re: Why even exist if all you do is uphold a book that doesn't change? It's not just "a book". But ok, lets see you write one that is better. Go ahead and try. We will all be here waiting.

Re: You can't affect anything in the world. One prayer can have that effect. Just one.

Re: Who knows? Millions do. God knows. He gave us his word in a book no less. One that you can hold in your hands and read (well hopefully). Millions have read this book. They all know. What you are really saying is "not me, I don't know" and that is why you are asking questions like this to strangers on an Internet forum. Which is fine. Manyhere have been patient in answering your questions.

Now may I ask a couple of questions? Where are your parents? You're 17 right? When is your bedtime? You are in school right?

Did I state I could write a "better" book? Where is your definition of "better"? In what sense? Because it's the all-time bestseller? There are probably 10 bibles to every Christian, and many untouched entirely, there's no way that's an accurate representation of quality.

And perhaps I may "write a better book", you don't know. You claim I'm only 17 and not capable of doing anything because you assume that your expectations will hold out, but you're the one stifling dreams here, ass. Whenever I see a baby or small child, I always look at them as they are and then see them as a full-grown adult for what they will be (possibly) and see how time of existence affects so much, it's unreal.

Lol entirely at your Christian beliefs, seriously. It's like saying there's an imaginary friend with no evidence to support such a claim, change the word God or Jesus in the bible to your choice of imaginary friend names and it makes it look ludicrous, because that's what it is. Prayer is a superstition.

My parents are in the other room. I'm 17, right. My bedtime is when I determine I will get enough sleep for the next day, it's been that way for a while, because I responsibly go to bed early or responsibly take suffering the next day, either way. Mostly between 11-12 on school nights. I am in school, a good one, and actually one high school and 2 colleges, thanks.

LOL everybody is here reading this thread! Hellooooooooooooo

The Book
 

One thing that is not questionable is human nature. Everything in the bible about human nature has not changed and never will. God knew this. Look at the stories. The time frame is different but it still applies today. Nothing that is written about how people act and how they react will ever change. That is human nature. It is up to us to decide if we belive or not.

Gilgamesh is the oldest written recorded novel, why don't you believe everything there if you're looking for history?

Or the qu'ran etc.

This time period is commonly referred to as the Dark Ages. The church provided all the answers and those who found themselves "asking questions" were often burned at the stake or just chased out of the country, if they were lucky, not unlike the very first Pilgrims...

This mentality is counterproductive to the learning process, period!!!

There are a variety of "better" books and approximately 4 billion people worldwide agree. However, even you have to admit which one is "best" is a personal choice for each individual.
Yeah, and Kryptonite hurts Superman....the problem is both of those concepts are based on fantasy. Now I agree that one man CAN make a difference, but we disagree on the method. It takes "blood, sweat, and tears" to achieve goals, not prayer.
What it shows is that he possess the intelligence and the courage to stand up and say "hey, reality doesn't mesh very well with what you're preaching".

Thanks for the support, he said what I left out, basically. Even those who disagree sometimes (brain and I) can agree on things we see because.. it has no religious taboo on it. We don't have to watch our Ps and Qs and tread on thin ice with religion because any person can express what they wish, whether or not somebody else agrees and rebuttals that idea is another story, this doesn't mean I hate anybody else or dislike that person as a whole, because they disagree with me. You guys (you know which ones you are) saw my age and discredited me before even reading what I had to say really, and even now you still do, but you should admire my ignorance and will to support myself and others by saying what needs to be said, even if it's unpopular.

Majority may rule, but minority wins.

I dare!
 

I am a Christian! I love the faith that I have chosen as my own. I did not grow up in church or a religious family. It is my personal choice to believe in Jesus Christ, and the one, true living God!!

Gilgamesh lived about 2700 B.C and descended from Sargon the Magnificent who was a direct descendant of Cain. Gilgamesh was carrying on what Sargon and his father started when they built Babylon (confusion :confused: ) with all the Iggie and Sumerian's. Cain was a builder of cities and the reason for that was the curse of Cain which was that the ground would not produce food for him and he would be a vagabond, city builder and a money changer all the days of his life and his seed (tares) too.

These are the kinds of Christians I like, not the ones who just come and sit down in a chair every week purposefully absorbing propaganda and skewed lies. I sit through those same services, it's a wonder people don't shoot the place up by the way they say things (but it's in a loving way, right?). Psht.

"If you love God, burn a church." - Jello Biafra

Ok? Why restate it? I asked if he liked to read old novels and thought they were true if their age covered truths.

While I don't disagree with the sentiment, keep in mind Isaac doesn't go to church and he's by far the biggest zealot in the bunch.

Thank you brain :clap: I know by your post there is no way you are a zealot about anything :D do you fight with yourself when nobody is around to fight with ? You must just practice in front of the mirror with your camera :rotflol: